Practice Ati Guruyoga in the beginning. Read with mindfulness and awareness. Authenticate with a dedication in end.
Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu
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http://melong.com/open-letter-from-chog ... hai-norbu/Open Letter From Chögyal Namkhai Norbu
Dear All My Students,
I want to communicate one very important thing to you. I have discovered that most of my students have not read the biography of my Uncle Rinpoche Khyentse Chökyi Wangchug. The Lamp That Enlightens Narrow Minds. I want you to know that reading this biography is really very important, not only for knowing his general life situation or how he was or what he did in his life, but it is also very much closely related with the condition of my life.
If you are following me to receive my teachings and you consider that I am your teacher and you are my student, then you should know very well how my condition is in this world. If you do not know my situation concretely in this world, later you could find some problems that do not correspond to the relative situation. So, please, read the biography and then you can understand how important it really is.
I wrote this biography for that reason and Enrico dedicated to work for some years to translate it. Finally now you have the possibility to read it and understand its sense.
Chögyal Namkhai Norbu
Re: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu
There are new retreats scheduled too: http://melong.com/complete-schedule/
Re: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu
Norwegian wrote: ↑Thu Nov 23, 2017 12:08 pmhttp://melong.com/open-letter-from-chog ... hai-norbu/Open Letter From Chögyal Namkhai Norbu
Dear All My Students,
I want to communicate one very important thing to you. I have discovered that most of my students have not read the biography of my Uncle Rinpoche Khyentse Chökyi Wangchug. The Lamp That Enlightens Narrow Minds. I want you to know that reading this biography is really very important, not only for knowing his general life situation or how he was or what he did in his life, but it is also very much closely related with the condition of my life.
If you are following me to receive my teachings and you consider that I am your teacher and you are my student, then you should know very well how my condition is in this world. If you do not know my situation concretely in this world, later you could find some problems that do not correspond to the relative situation. So, please, read the biography and then you can understand how important it really is.
I wrote this biography for that reason and Enrico dedicated to work for some years to translate it. Finally now you have the possibility to read it and understand its sense.
Chögyal Namkhai Norbu
Available from Amazon as paper book or Kindle version, or paper book from SSI store.
https://www.amazon.com/Lamp-That-Enligh ... khai+norbu
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Re: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu
thank you, i was looking for this letter.
true dharma is inexpressible.
The bodhisattva nourishes from bodhicitta, through whatever method the Buddha has given him. Oh joy.
The bodhisattva nourishes from bodhicitta, through whatever method the Buddha has given him. Oh joy.
Re: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu
Any PDF version?Mantrik wrote: ↑Thu Nov 23, 2017 2:08 pmNorwegian wrote: ↑Thu Nov 23, 2017 12:08 pmhttp://melong.com/open-letter-from-chog ... hai-norbu/Open Letter From Chögyal Namkhai Norbu
Dear All My Students,
I want to communicate one very important thing to you. I have discovered that most of my students have not read the biography of my Uncle Rinpoche Khyentse Chökyi Wangchug. The Lamp That Enlightens Narrow Minds. I want you to know that reading this biography is really very important, not only for knowing his general life situation or how he was or what he did in his life, but it is also very much closely related with the condition of my life.
If you are following me to receive my teachings and you consider that I am your teacher and you are my student, then you should know very well how my condition is in this world. If you do not know my situation concretely in this world, later you could find some problems that do not correspond to the relative situation. So, please, read the biography and then you can understand how important it really is.
I wrote this biography for that reason and Enrico dedicated to work for some years to translate it. Finally now you have the possibility to read it and understand its sense.
Chögyal Namkhai Norbu
Available from Amazon as paper book or Kindle version, or paper book from SSI store.
https://www.amazon.com/Lamp-That-Enligh ... khai+norbu
May all beings be free from suffering and causes of suffering
Re: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu
Wow. That was fast - almost all sold out. KIndle edition available though, of course.
http://www.khyung.com ཁྲོཾ
Om Thathpurushaya Vidhmahe
Suvarna Pakshaya Dheemahe
Thanno Garuda Prachodayath
Micchāmi Dukkaḍaṃ (मिच्छामि दुक्कडम्)
Om Thathpurushaya Vidhmahe
Suvarna Pakshaya Dheemahe
Thanno Garuda Prachodayath
Micchāmi Dukkaḍaṃ (मिच्छामि दुक्कडम्)
Re: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu
What does this mean, especially the second paragraph? Reading the book will help ChNN's health? Not reading it will cause/is causing us and him problems? What does it mean to 'know his situation concretely in this world"? They have been very vague about his health.Norwegian wrote: ↑Thu Nov 23, 2017 12:08 pmhttp://melong.com/open-letter-from-chog ... hai-norbu/Open Letter From Chögyal Namkhai Norbu
Dear All My Students,
I want to communicate one very important thing to you. I have discovered that most of my students have not read the biography of my Uncle Rinpoche Khyentse Chökyi Wangchug. The Lamp That Enlightens Narrow Minds. I want you to know that reading this biography is really very important, not only for knowing his general life situation or how he was or what he did in his life, but it is also very much closely related with the condition of my life.
If you are following me to receive my teachings and you consider that I am your teacher and you are my student, then you should know very well how my condition is in this world. If you do not know my situation concretely in this world, later you could find some problems that do not correspond to the relative situation. So, please, read the biography and then you can understand how important it really is.
I wrote this biography for that reason and Enrico dedicated to work for some years to translate it. Finally now you have the possibility to read it and understand its sense.
Chögyal Namkhai Norbu
Re: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu
Spelare wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2017 3:43 am If I want to dedicate time to reading a Dzogchen text, say a tantra or a terma, does it make sense to integrate that into a thun? If so, at what point in the thun should I do it? The goal I have in mind is that being in the right frame of mind should help me get more out of the text, and also reading certain texts can be an aid to contemplation. Are there any established procedures for this, or is this a matter of individual preference?
Chose a text that you can connect with and start with Ati GY. Then read short passages and pause to think of the intellectual meaning. Then try to relate those ideas to your immediate circumstances. And at the end do GY again and rest beyond concept. Rinse repeat...
As for integrating this into a tun i wouldn't know how this could be done.
Re: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu
It is a very interesting book. Also, I recently read "The Life and Times of Jamyang Khyentse Chökyi Lodrö" where one gets to hear "the other side" of the story of how come Khyentse Chökyi Wangchug left Dzongsar and Khyentse Chökyi Lodrö moved in at Dzongsar.Norwegian wrote: ↑Thu Nov 23, 2017 12:08 pmhttp://melong.com/open-letter-from-chog ... hai-norbu/Open Letter From Chögyal Namkhai Norbu
Dear All My Students,
I want to communicate one very important thing to you. I have discovered that most of my students have not read the biography of my Uncle Rinpoche Khyentse Chökyi Wangchug. The Lamp That Enlightens Narrow Minds. I want you to know that reading this biography is really very important, not only for knowing his general life situation or how he was or what he did in his life, but it is also very much closely related with the condition of my life.
If you are following me to receive my teachings and you consider that I am your teacher and you are my student, then you should know very well how my condition is in this world. If you do not know my situation concretely in this world, later you could find some problems that do not correspond to the relative situation. So, please, read the biography and then you can understand how important it really is.
I wrote this biography for that reason and Enrico dedicated to work for some years to translate it. Finally now you have the possibility to read it and understand its sense.
Chögyal Namkhai Norbu
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"We are all here to help each other go through this thing, whatever it is."
~Kurt Vonnegut
"The principal practice is Guruyoga. But we need to understand that any secondary practice combined with Guruyoga becomes a principal practice." ChNNR (Teachings on Thun and Ganapuja)
~Kurt Vonnegut
"The principal practice is Guruyoga. But we need to understand that any secondary practice combined with Guruyoga becomes a principal practice." ChNNR (Teachings on Thun and Ganapuja)
Re: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu
Wish you hadn't mentioned that. I took a look and now just feel more disgusted with tulku businesses.heart wrote: ↑Thu Nov 23, 2017 4:05 pmIt is a very interesting book. Also, I recently read "The Life and Times of Jamyang Khyentse Chökyi Lodrö" where one gets to hear "the other side" of the story of how come Khyentse Chökyi Wangchug left Dzongsar and Khyentse Chökyi Lodrö moved in at Dzongsar.Norwegian wrote: ↑Thu Nov 23, 2017 12:08 pmhttp://melong.com/open-letter-from-chog ... hai-norbu/Open Letter From Chögyal Namkhai Norbu
Dear All My Students,
I want to communicate one very important thing to you. I have discovered that most of my students have not read the biography of my Uncle Rinpoche Khyentse Chökyi Wangchug. The Lamp That Enlightens Narrow Minds. I want you to know that reading this biography is really very important, not only for knowing his general life situation or how he was or what he did in his life, but it is also very much closely related with the condition of my life.
If you are following me to receive my teachings and you consider that I am your teacher and you are my student, then you should know very well how my condition is in this world. If you do not know my situation concretely in this world, later you could find some problems that do not correspond to the relative situation. So, please, read the biography and then you can understand how important it really is.
I wrote this biography for that reason and Enrico dedicated to work for some years to translate it. Finally now you have the possibility to read it and understand its sense.
Chögyal Namkhai Norbu
/magnus
Although many individuals in this age appear to be merely indulging their worldly desires, one does not have the capacity to judge them, so it is best to train in pure vision.
- Shabkar
- Shabkar
Re: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu
Perhaps you're thinking of "condition of his life" - he's not reffering to his health. He's probably talking about his position in Tibetan Buddhist circles.Lhasa wrote: ↑Thu Nov 23, 2017 3:08 pmWhat does this mean, especially the second paragraph? Reading the book will help ChNN's health? Not reading it will cause/is causing us and him problems? What does it mean to 'know his situation concretely in this world"? They have been very vague about his health.Norwegian wrote: ↑Thu Nov 23, 2017 12:08 pmhttp://melong.com/open-letter-from-chog ... hai-norbu/Open Letter From Chögyal Namkhai Norbu
Dear All My Students,
I want to communicate one very important thing to you. I have discovered that most of my students have not read the biography of my Uncle Rinpoche Khyentse Chökyi Wangchug. The Lamp That Enlightens Narrow Minds. I want you to know that reading this biography is really very important, not only for knowing his general life situation or how he was or what he did in his life, but it is also very much closely related with the condition of my life.
If you are following me to receive my teachings and you consider that I am your teacher and you are my student, then you should know very well how my condition is in this world. If you do not know my situation concretely in this world, later you could find some problems that do not correspond to the relative situation. So, please, read the biography and then you can understand how important it really is.
I wrote this biography for that reason and Enrico dedicated to work for some years to translate it. Finally now you have the possibility to read it and understand its sense.
Chögyal Namkhai Norbu
Although many individuals in this age appear to be merely indulging their worldly desires, one does not have the capacity to judge them, so it is best to train in pure vision.
- Shabkar
- Shabkar
Re: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu
It is really just Tibetan business in the end,Pero wrote: ↑Thu Nov 23, 2017 5:11 pmWish you hadn't mentioned that. I took a look and now just feel more disgusted with tulku businesses.heart wrote: ↑Thu Nov 23, 2017 4:05 pmIt is a very interesting book. Also, I recently read "The Life and Times of Jamyang Khyentse Chökyi Lodrö" where one gets to hear "the other side" of the story of how come Khyentse Chökyi Wangchug left Dzongsar and Khyentse Chökyi Lodrö moved in at Dzongsar.
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"We are all here to help each other go through this thing, whatever it is."
~Kurt Vonnegut
"The principal practice is Guruyoga. But we need to understand that any secondary practice combined with Guruyoga becomes a principal practice." ChNNR (Teachings on Thun and Ganapuja)
~Kurt Vonnegut
"The principal practice is Guruyoga. But we need to understand that any secondary practice combined with Guruyoga becomes a principal practice." ChNNR (Teachings on Thun and Ganapuja)
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Would you be so kind as to summarise the whole mysterious business in two-three sentences? I have an awful feeling that everybody in the room is talking about an incident I should so obviously know about -- but do not...Pero wrote: ↑Thu Nov 23, 2017 5:11 pmWish you hadn't mentioned that. I took a look and now just feel more disgusted with tulku businesses.heart wrote: ↑Thu Nov 23, 2017 4:05 pmIt is a very interesting book. Also, I recently read "The Life and Times of Jamyang Khyentse Chökyi Lodrö" where one gets to hear "the other side" of the story of how come Khyentse Chökyi Wangchug left Dzongsar and Khyentse Chökyi Lodrö moved in at Dzongsar.
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Générosité de l’invisible.
Notre gratitude est infinie.
Le critère est l’hospitalité.
Edmond Jabès
Notre gratitude est infinie.
Le critère est l’hospitalité.
Edmond Jabès
Re: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu
Retainers of Chokyi Lodo had problems with retainers of Chokyi Wangchuck. This lead to Chokyi Wangchuck's leaving Derge for good.treehuggingoctopus wrote: ↑Thu Nov 23, 2017 5:51 pm
Would you be so kind as to summarise the whole mysterious business in two-three sentences? I have an awful feeling that everybody in the room is talking about an incident I should so obviously know about -- but do not...
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Thank you, Malcolm. Did the series end there and then, or are they still broadcasting new episodes?Malcolm wrote: ↑Thu Nov 23, 2017 6:25 pmRetainers of Chokyi Lodo had problems with retainers of Chokyi Wangchuck. This lead to Chokyi Wangchuck's leaving Derge for good.treehuggingoctopus wrote: ↑Thu Nov 23, 2017 5:51 pm
Would you be so kind as to summarise the whole mysterious business in two-three sentences? I have an awful feeling that everybody in the room is talking about an incident I should so obviously know about -- but do not...
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Générosité de l’invisible.
Notre gratitude est infinie.
Le critère est l’hospitalité.
Edmond Jabès
Notre gratitude est infinie.
Le critère est l’hospitalité.
Edmond Jabès
Re: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu
The latest is the version of events recounted by OT in the JKCL, which on the face of it seem barely credible.treehuggingoctopus wrote: ↑Thu Nov 23, 2017 6:32 pmThank you, Malcolm. Did the series end there and then, or are they still broadcasting new episodes?Malcolm wrote: ↑Thu Nov 23, 2017 6:25 pmRetainers of Chokyi Lodo had problems with retainers of Chokyi Wangchuck. This lead to Chokyi Wangchuck's leaving Derge for good.treehuggingoctopus wrote: ↑Thu Nov 23, 2017 5:51 pm
Would you be so kind as to summarise the whole mysterious business in two-three sentences? I have an awful feeling that everybody in the room is talking about an incident I should so obviously know about -- but do not...
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Générosité de l’invisible.
Notre gratitude est infinie.
Le critère est l’hospitalité.
Edmond Jabès
Notre gratitude est infinie.
Le critère est l’hospitalité.
Edmond Jabès
Re: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu
Yeah, pg. 32 onwards until end. When you compare with ChNN's account, seems to be a huge difference of opinion about Chago Tobden's devotion to Heka Lingpa.treehuggingoctopus wrote: ↑Thu Nov 23, 2017 6:41 pm Here, you mean:
https://www.amazon.com/Times-Jamyang-Kh ... 1611803772
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Thank you!
Générosité de l’invisible.
Notre gratitude est infinie.
Le critère est l’hospitalité.
Edmond Jabès
Notre gratitude est infinie.
Le critère est l’hospitalité.
Edmond Jabès