Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu

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Re: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu

Post by javier.espinoza.t » Sun Dec 03, 2017 4:44 pm

Hansei wrote:
Sun Dec 03, 2017 1:42 pm
When following a Ganapuja through webcast, do we also need to setup an altar with offerings?
good question
i would recommend it
since we don't have the same meals
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Post by javier.espinoza.t » Sun Dec 03, 2017 4:47 pm

Miroku wrote:
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I'd say just practice if you have the transmission. As you go through practice some things get bit clearer by themselves and sometimes the right books appear at the right time. Sounds silly but it seems to work if you work with the transmission. Also try connecting with dzogchen community in your area, I learned a lot via talks with my vajra siblings, or just by listening to their talks.
I have been working with the transmission I received in August, and have been attending monthly ganapujas since then. Also went to an SMS weekend on the semdzins at Tsegyalgar East. Our local practice group is having another ganapuja tomorrow.
:twothumbsup: Many people start fast and hard and later get tired and lose interest, avoid that. :D
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Post by javier.espinoza.t » Sun Dec 03, 2017 4:58 pm

in Rimpoche teachings is Vajrayana considered part of Mahayana or not?

i think that obviously yes, but another ''old'' practitioner said to me that no
so i got confused and dissapointed hahahaha
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Re: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu

Post by lelopa » Sun Dec 03, 2017 6:31 pm

javier.espinoza.t wrote:
Sun Dec 03, 2017 4:58 pm
in Rimpoche teachings is Vajrayana considered part of Mahayana or not?

i think that obviously yes, but another ''old'' practitioner said to me that no
so i got confused and dissapointed hahahaha
Mahayoga is part of Vajrayana

Edit:
Ooops.. I've read Mahayoga - not .....yana
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Re: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu

Post by Malcolm » Sun Dec 03, 2017 6:35 pm

javier.espinoza.t wrote:
Sun Dec 03, 2017 4:58 pm
in Rimpoche teachings is Vajrayana considered part of Mahayana or not?

i think that obviously yes, but another ''old'' practitioner said to me that no
so i got confused and dissapointed hahahaha
Vajrayāna is part of Mahāyāna, definitely.
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The different sūtras in accord with the emptiness
taught by the Sugata are definitive in meaning;
One can understand that all of those Dharmas in
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Re: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu

Post by Johnny Dangerous » Sun Dec 03, 2017 6:41 pm

javier.espinoza.t wrote:
Sun Dec 03, 2017 4:58 pm
in Rimpoche teachings is Vajrayana considered part of Mahayana or not?

i think that obviously yes, but another ''old'' practitioner said to me that no
so i got confused and dissapointed hahahaha
Yep, refer to Precious Vase
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Re: ChNN WEBCAST TOMORROW

Post by Vasana » Sun Dec 03, 2017 7:19 pm

Fa Dao wrote:
Fri Dec 01, 2017 12:25 pm
Vasana wrote:
Fri Dec 01, 2017 11:42 am
Does anyone know the latest from the webcast team about what can be done to improve streaming /connection etc? Ongoing problems for a while it seems so it would be good to know if there is at least a loose plan for improving the services in the near future.
Agreed..especially considering the upcoming webcast at the end of this month..

A follow up on webcast issues -


***
Facebook comment from Webcast Team -

- Dear firends, while we appreciate all the suggestion to add additonal parallel live streams using the popular media like Youtube/Facebook/etc, please consider the following: 1) copyright issues: the mentioned open streaming services keep the right to use what you stream with them. 2) latency: those services buffer and save pieces of content, that is against the requirement requested by Rinpoche of: the least latency possible, the need not to have immediate recordings. 3) control of the content: we need to guarantee the streams are the original one (that why we have a private streaming infrastructure) and are not spread randomly or re-streamed. If you find a solution that addresses these issues please contact us ( info@ylon.net )
and we can surely talk about it.

***

As above, if anyone has any suggestions please contact the webcast team on the email above (and myself if possible with any update). It seems like it's time that the D.C invested in a better service since so many enthusiastic people are becoming discouraged or averse to the D.C after multiple webcast issues, especially when WWT is concerned. The U.K Gakyil will likely be spreading the word in the U.K community since not everyone is on or checks facebook.
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Re: ChNN WEBCAST TOMORROW

Post by Mantrik » Sun Dec 03, 2017 7:49 pm

Vasana wrote:
Sun Dec 03, 2017 7:19 pm
Fa Dao wrote:
Fri Dec 01, 2017 12:25 pm
Vasana wrote:
Fri Dec 01, 2017 11:42 am
Does anyone know the latest from the webcast team about what can be done to improve streaming /connection etc? Ongoing problems for a while it seems so it would be good to know if there is at least a loose plan for improving the services in the near future.
Agreed..especially considering the upcoming webcast at the end of this month..

A follow up on webcast issues -


***
Facebook comment from Webcast Team -

- Dear firends, while we appreciate all the suggestion to add additonal parallel live streams using the popular media like Youtube/Facebook/etc, please consider the following: 1) copyright issues: the mentioned open streaming services keep the right to use what you stream with them. 2) latency: those services buffer and save pieces of content, that is against the requirement requested by Rinpoche of: the least latency possible, the need not to have immediate recordings. 3) control of the content: we need to guarantee the streams are the original one (that why we have a private streaming infrastructure) and are not spread randomly or re-streamed. If you find a solution that addresses these issues please contact us ( info@ylon.net )
and we can surely talk about it.

***

As above, if anyone has any suggestions please contact the webcast team on the email above (and myself if possible with any update). It seems like it's time that the D.C invested in a better service since so many enthusiastic people are becoming discouraged or averse to the D.C after multiple webcast issues, especially when WWT is concerned. The U.K Gakyil will likely be spreading the word in the U.K community since not everyone is on or checks facebook.
I would gladly pay more membership fees for a stable webcast service... They didn't say if this under consideration, or was a solution, though.
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Re: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu

Post by Vasana » Sun Dec 03, 2017 7:54 pm

Well no solution is present there hence the request to contact them on the email provided if anyone knows of a better service to use that meets all the criteria.
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Post by treehuggingoctopus » Sun Dec 03, 2017 7:56 pm

Has anybody been able to watch/listen to the Mandarava Puja webcasted today? There seems to be a *serious* issue with webcasts...
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Post by Johnny Dangerous » Sun Dec 03, 2017 8:51 pm

I sort of like that the DC does it's own stuff, but is there an explicit reason they do not use an available streaming service?

I mean if the answer is that they want the DC to remain independent of these, that is a good thing, and we should take our lumps...but if not...
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Post by Mantrik » Sun Dec 03, 2017 8:53 pm

Johnny Dangerous wrote:
Sun Dec 03, 2017 8:51 pm
I sort of like that the DC does it's own stuff, but is there an explicit reason they do not use an available streaming service?

I mean if the answer is that they want the DC to remain independent of these, that is a good thing, and we should take our lumps...but if not...
Pssst....read back to Vasana's post quoting them. :)

But I still don't see why they can't invest in making the existing service much better, and we pay for it.
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Post by javier.espinoza.t » Sun Dec 03, 2017 8:58 pm

Malcolm wrote:
Sun Dec 03, 2017 6:35 pm
javier.espinoza.t wrote:
Sun Dec 03, 2017 4:58 pm
in Rimpoche teachings is Vajrayana considered part of Mahayana or not?

i think that obviously yes, but another ''old'' practitioner said to me that no
so i got confused and dissapointed hahahaha
Vajrayāna is part of Mahāyāna, definitely.
Johnny Dangerous wrote:
Sun Dec 03, 2017 6:41 pm
javier.espinoza.t wrote:
Sun Dec 03, 2017 4:58 pm
in Rimpoche teachings is Vajrayana considered part of Mahayana or not?

i think that obviously yes, but another ''old'' practitioner said to me that no
so i got confused and dissapointed hahahaha
Yep, refer to Precious Vase

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Post by Johnny Dangerous » Sun Dec 03, 2017 9:01 pm

Mantrik wrote:
Sun Dec 03, 2017 8:53 pm
Johnny Dangerous wrote:
Sun Dec 03, 2017 8:51 pm
I sort of like that the DC does it's own stuff, but is there an explicit reason they do not use an available streaming service?

I mean if the answer is that they want the DC to remain independent of these, that is a good thing, and we should take our lumps...but if not...
Pssst....read back to Vasana's post quoting them. :)

But I still don't see why they can't invest in making the existing service much better, and we pay for it.
Ah yes, good reasons.

I guess part of the problem is people like me who do not pay membership dues lol, though I do try to provide regular financial support through other means.
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Post by treehuggingoctopus » Sun Dec 03, 2017 11:28 pm

treehuggingoctopus wrote:
Sun Dec 03, 2017 7:56 pm
Has anybody been able to watch/listen to the Mandarava Puja webcasted today? There seems to be a *serious* issue with webcasts...
Bump?
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Re: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu

Post by Hansei » Mon Dec 04, 2017 3:09 pm

javier.espinoza.t wrote:
Sun Dec 03, 2017 4:44 pm
Hansei wrote:
Sun Dec 03, 2017 1:42 pm
When following a Ganapuja through webcast, do we also need to setup an altar with offerings?
good question
i would recommend it
since we don't have the same meals
Thanks Javier.

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Post by Malcolm » Mon Dec 04, 2017 3:22 pm

Johnny Dangerous wrote:
Sun Dec 03, 2017 8:51 pm
I sort of like that the DC does it's own stuff, but is there an explicit reason they do not use an available streaming service?

I mean if the answer is that they want the DC to remain independent of these, that is a good thing, and we should take our lumps...but if not...
Initially, they developed their webcast platform hoping to also sell services to others.

Actually, the DC webcast platform is one of the most stable out there.
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-- Ārya-adhyāśaya-sañcodana-nāma-mahāyāna-sūtra

The different sūtras in accord with the emptiness
taught by the Sugata are definitive in meaning;
One can understand that all of those Dharmas in
which a sentient being, individual, or person are taught are provisional in meaning.

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Re: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu

Post by Miroku » Mon Dec 04, 2017 5:28 pm

Malcolm is right. When I have tried watching different webcasts from Garchen Rinpoche or Dalai lama and others, it usually had more trouble than DC webcast had. It is quite rare for it to go down or have some problems. Although, lately there are some problems.
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Post by Johnny Dangerous » Mon Dec 04, 2017 8:14 pm

I've had the opposite experience..lots of technical issues with DC webcasts, not like it dimishes the preciousness of the content or anything like that.

Compared to teachings that happen over larger services they seem less reliable to me...however, the autonomy afforded by not using those services is well worth it, I'm sure, and I dont mean to sound ungrateful. I'm fine dealing with occasional quirks, and I like the fact that the DC handles it's own stuff.
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Re: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu

Post by Tlalok » Mon Dec 04, 2017 8:49 pm

If I attended the WWT webcast for the anniversary of Padmasambhava, do I have the transmission for all the different practices in the Guru Yoga book (E.G. Guru Yoga with White A, Guru Yoga with the Song of the Vajra etc), or only the Padmasambhava one?

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