Stewart wrote: ↑Thu Apr 05, 2018 4:48 pmHi,dharmafootsteps wrote: ↑Wed Apr 04, 2018 2:53 amI'm not sure, I'll see her again tomorrow so will check then.
Just wondering if you managed to find out any more information on this Sadhana?
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Stewart wrote: ↑Thu Apr 05, 2018 4:48 pmHi,dharmafootsteps wrote: ↑Wed Apr 04, 2018 2:53 amI'm not sure, I'll see her again tomorrow so will check then.
Just wondering if you managed to find out any more information on this Sadhana?
Yep. The story goes that they actually met by "chance" in argentinas airport so it was auspicous to include it. I was there too. Maybe we metrang.drol wrote: ↑Fri Apr 06, 2018 12:11 pm I'm not quite sure I've seen the very same practice, but when I was in Tashigar/Argentina last year on a retreat with Tsoknyi Rinpoche (organized by Dongyu Ling) they used an amended Konchog Chidu practice booklet, where the ChNN's Song of Vajra was included and sung as well (though in a slightly differently melody than in the DC).
When the practice was explained in a session Gerardo Abboud (one of the founders of Dongyu Ling) mentioned it was included due to the fact that the specific practice booklet was compiled by Drugu Chögyal Rinpoche, who has a close connection with Chögyal Namkhai Norbu (he painted some of Dzogchen masters in the Merigar temple as well, if I'm not mistaken), and found singing the Song of Vajra to be very conducive for entering into resp. maintaining of the recognition of the natural state.
So the connection goes like: ChNN -> Drugu Chögyal Rinpoche -> compilation of Konchog Chidu practice booklet -> Dongyu Ling / Gerardo Abboud (Tsoknyi Rinpoche's long time translator in retreats) -> Tsoknyi Rinpoche.
But as mentioned earlier: I may be talking of another background...
Thanks for the information, Gerardo also told me a few years ago he is old friends with ChNN. I also believe there is a strong connection between ChNN and Tulku Urgyen. TUR gave ChNN the Dzogchen Desum in Nepal many years ago, and ChNN composed songs about TUR, but he can't find them, I asked him a couple of years ago if he still had them.rang.drol wrote: ↑Fri Apr 06, 2018 12:11 pm I'm not quite sure I've seen the very same practice, but when I was in Tashigar/Argentina last year on a retreat with Tsoknyi Rinpoche (organized by Dongyu Ling) they used an amended Konchog Chidu practice booklet, where the ChNN's Song of Vajra was included and sung as well (though in a slightly differently melody than in the DC).
When the practice was explained in a session Gerardo Abboud (one of the founders of Dongyu Ling) mentioned it was included due to the fact that the specific practice booklet was compiled by Drugu Chögyal Rinpoche, who has a close connection with Chögyal Namkhai Norbu (he painted some of Dzogchen masters in the Merigar temple as well, if I'm not mistaken), and found singing the Song of Vajra to be very conducive for entering into resp. maintaining of the recognition of the natural state.
So the connection goes like: ChNN -> Drugu Chögyal Rinpoche -> compilation of Konchog Chidu practice booklet -> Dongyu Ling / Gerardo Abboud (Tsoknyi Rinpoche's long time translator in retreats) -> Tsoknyi Rinpoche.
But as mentioned earlier: I may be talking of another background...
Does anyone have any info on this? It would be really helpful...
Andreas Kretschmar (a long time, close student of Tulku Urgyen Rinpoche) also told me about that encounter and while he (i.e. Andreas) didn't know much about ChNN, he had the impression that the connection between the two masters was growing day by day during ChNN's stay there.Stewart wrote: ↑Fri Apr 06, 2018 12:35 pm Thanks for the information, Gerardo also told me a few years ago he is old friends with ChNN. I also believe there is a strong connection between ChNN and Tulku Urgyen. TUR gave ChNN the Dzogchen Desum in Nepal many years ago, and ChNN composed songs about TUR, but he can't find them, I asked him a couple of years ago if he still had them.
That sounds very likely to be the connection, as the practitioner I was speaking to is Argentinian. Although she did know ChNN's melody (without realising it's his melody). Perhaps someone introduced that to the group more recently.rang.drol wrote: ↑Fri Apr 06, 2018 12:11 pm I'm not quite sure I've seen the very same practice, but when I was in Tashigar/Argentina last year on a retreat with Tsoknyi Rinpoche (organized by Dongyu Ling) they used an amended Konchog Chidu practice booklet, where the ChNN's Song of Vajra was included and sung as well (though in a slightly differently melody than in the DC).
When the practice was explained in a session Gerardo Abboud (one of the founders of Dongyu Ling) mentioned it was included due to the fact that the specific practice booklet was compiled by Drugu Chögyal Rinpoche, who has a close connection with Chögyal Namkhai Norbu (he painted some of Dzogchen masters in the Merigar temple as well, if I'm not mistaken), and found singing the Song of Vajra to be very conducive for entering into resp. maintaining of the recognition of the natural state.
So the connection goes like: ChNN -> Drugu Chögyal Rinpoche -> compilation of Konchog Chidu practice booklet -> Dongyu Ling / Gerardo Abboud (Tsoknyi Rinpoche's long time translator in retreats) -> Tsoknyi Rinpoche.
But as mentioned earlier: I may be talking of another background...
Sorry, I didn't get a chance to see her on the day I was expecting. I'll see her soon though, we study at the same place, and will post more info once I find out.
Yes, Andreas told me the same story.rang.drol wrote: ↑Fri Apr 06, 2018 4:24 pmAndreas Kretschmar (a long time, close student of Tulku Urgyen Rinpoche) also told me about that encounter and while he (i.e. Andreas) didn't know much about ChNN, he had the impression that the connection between the two masters was growing day by day during ChNN's stay there.Stewart wrote: ↑Fri Apr 06, 2018 12:35 pm Thanks for the information, Gerardo also told me a few years ago he is old friends with ChNN. I also believe there is a strong connection between ChNN and Tulku Urgyen. TUR gave ChNN the Dzogchen Desum in Nepal many years ago, and ChNN composed songs about TUR, but he can't find them, I asked him a couple of years ago if he still had them.
Mani is done with the same melody like 6 lokas syllables.
Not really honestly. It is included in a cd that comes with czech version of Avalokiteshvara Khorwa Kongtrug practice ... not really sure if it is also in other language versions like that. Try too look for it and if you do not get it then pm me and I can share it with you.
Kyung-chen Ding-va is a Semde text commonly translated as The Great Garuda in Flight. As to whether the retreat will take place in Merigar, or indeed whether it will happen at all, I have no clue, alas. Many people would love to know what the actual schedule will turn out to be. My included.Pema Yolo wrote: ↑Sun Apr 22, 2018 10:13 pm Does anyone know if the June Merigar retreat is still going forward as planned? It is still on the Melong schedule but I don not see it on the Merigar calendar. I have not heard any news if Rinpoche will be traveling or not.
Also, what is the scheduled teaching, Kyung-chen Ding-va, about specifically?
Thanks!
Ah, thank you, I had not actually seen the TIbetan name. I received this amazing teaching from Khenpo Tsewang Dongyal Rinpoche. I figured as much about ChNNR. I hope he cuts the travel this year too. For me the loss of Shenphen Dawa Rinpoche has really driven home how precious these teachers are and what a huge loss it is for the world when they pass.treehuggingoctopus wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 4:50 pm Kyung-chen Ding-va is a Semde text commonly translated as The Great Garuda in Flight. As to whether the retreat will take place in Merigar, or indeed whether it will happen at all, I have no clue, alas. Many people would love to know what the actual schedule will turn out to be. My included.
Personally, I am hoping Rinpoche will stay in Tenerife and rest.
Pema Yolo wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 6:24 pmAh, thank you, I had not actually seen the TIbetan name. I received this amazing teaching from Khenpo Tsewang Dongyal Rinpoche. I figured as much about ChNNR. I hope he cuts the travel this year too. For me the loss of Shenphen Dawa Rinpoche has really driven home how precious these teachers are and what a huge loss it is for the world when they pass.treehuggingoctopus wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 4:50 pm Kyung-chen Ding-va is a Semde text commonly translated as The Great Garuda in Flight. As to whether the retreat will take place in Merigar, or indeed whether it will happen at all, I have no clue, alas. Many people would love to know what the actual schedule will turn out to be. My included.
Personally, I am hoping Rinpoche will stay in Tenerife and rest.