Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu

[jet.urgyen]

I've not come across it, and just checked the Teachings on the Thun and Ganapuja book. If he hasn't perhaps use the 'Local Guardians of Place and Time'?

dharma isn't widely spread there, so there is no dharmapala. i think.

It wasn't even in America. Rinpoche saw how the landscape in the USA looked like and based on that assumed that certain class of beings is very powerful there. That is why North America has who it has as a special dharmapala.

There are not really any practitioners in Africa (from DC I mean and if there are it is just few people), plus Rinpoche never went to Africa. When he was supposed to go there for the first time he fell sick. So, we will never know what guardian would be for Africa.

prior to the arival of dharma there is no reason for a dharmapala to take over.

[jet.urgyen]

I've not come across it, and just checked the Teachings on the Thun and Ganapuja book. If he hasn't perhaps use the 'Local Guardians of Place and Time'?

dharma isn't widely spread there, so there is no dharmapala. i think.

How many would there have to be?

how nice!

i don't know, nor care cuz i don't teach. i guess there must be a master that makes an agreement or tame the locals and name a chieftan to watch out. like GP did. i mean the amount of faithful people isn't the cause.

[Könchok Thrinley]

prior to the arival of dharma there is no reason for a dharmapala to take over.

But there are buddhist groups in Africa.

[Mantrik]

prior to the arival of dharma there is no reason for a dharmapala to take over.

But there are buddhist groups in Africa.

The need for a Dharmapala doesn't depend on the beliefs or how many hold them, but on the nature of the practice.
I'm pretty sure there must be Vajrayana practitioners in Africa who practise Tantra at a level which requires a Dharmapala, and that they would have been given that as part of their empowerment if it was needed.

The question was about the continent itself, and I think here what we are discussing is whether there is a 'critical mass' of energies which has created the causes and conditions for there to need to be a defined Protector for that continent.

And so far, we don't know the answer, and so far nobody has replied that ChNN named one. Malcolm maybe knows?

[Pema Yolo]

I know Tenerife is “Spain” but has no one looked at a map? lol

[jet.urgyen]

I know Tenerife is “Spain” but has no one looked at a map? lol

and spain is closer to africa than the canarian islands...

the point is another.

[Danny]

Need some clarification on a point surrounding Namkha and charts, specific to double elements. Can someone with more than book understanding PM please? Many thanks, I have a few questions.

[Danny]

Need some clarification on a point surrounding Namkha and charts, specific to double elements. Can someone with more than book understanding PM please? Many thanks, I have a few questions.

No need. I figured it out myself.

[jet.urgyen]

Need some clarification on a point surrounding Namkha and charts, specific to double elements. Can someone with more than book understanding PM please? Many thanks, I have a few questions.

No need. I figured it out myself.

what are double elements?

[Danny]

Need some clarification on a point surrounding Namkha and charts, specific to double elements. Can someone with more than book understanding PM please? Many thanks, I have a few questions.

No need. I figured it out myself.

what are double elements?

Water+water = deep water, and is in conflict with other elements of mewa etc.
Simplist way to describe it.

[Danny]

No need. I figured it out myself.

what are double elements?

Water+water = deep water, and is in conflict with other elements of mewa etc.
Simplist way to describe it.

To have it harmonious, balance with other elements just complicates things, but it’s doable,
Ya know! Mother-son, friend-enemy type of thing.

[jet.urgyen]

what are double elements?

Water+water = deep water, and is in conflict with other elements of mewa etc.
Simplist way to describe it.

To have it harmonious, balance with other elements just complicates things, but it’s doable,
Ya know! Mother-son, friend-enemy type of thing.

water+water can consolidate into deep water, but ¿do the other elements also consolidate in this way?

[Danny]

Water+water = deep water, and is in conflict with other elements of mewa etc.
Simplist way to describe it.

To have it harmonious, balance with other elements just complicates things, but it’s doable,
Ya know! Mother-son, friend-enemy type of thing.

water+water can consolidate into deep water, but ¿do the other elements also consolidate in this way?

I checked and it only says water - #2
It says identical elements are harmonious, earth+earth, wood and wood etc, so yes they do stack, so harmony with themselves, but not with other elements if they fall on the friend/enemy clockwise anti clockwise relationship chart. If you think that a normal element is in conflict with another, what a double “deeper” element creates?
Short life? Stupidity? Bad luck? Lol

[jet.urgyen]

To have it harmonious, balance with other elements just complicates things, but it’s doable,
Ya know! Mother-son, friend-enemy type of thing.

water+water can consolidate into deep water, but ¿do the other elements also consolidate in this way?

I checked and it only says water - #2
It says identical elements are harmonious, earth+earth, wood and wood etc, so yes they do stack, so harmony with themselves, but not with other elements if they fall on the friend/enemy clockwise anti clockwise relationship chart. If you think that a normal element is in conflict with another, what a double “deeper” element creates?
Short life? Stupidity? Bad luck? Lol

no, i meant that if other elements than water may "stack" like wate. for example water+water makes another situation, but, if i understood well, fire+fire means more of the same.

[Moha]

What's a good DC practice to do before moving into a new house? I was thinking of doing a Sang and Ganapuja at the new place before I start shifting my stuff over. That should cover everything, right?

[jet.urgyen]

What's a good DC practice to do before moving into a new house? I was thinking of doing a Sang and Ganapuja at the new place before I start shifting my stuff over. That should cover everything, right?

i think yes.

[Moha]

i think yes.

Thanks, Javier.

[Könchok Thrinley]

i think yes.

Thanks, Javier.

Ganapuja and sang is definitely a good idea. Also SoV empowers a place where it is sang, so slowly slowly it should be good.

[Tata1]

Anyone has a online version of "stairway to liberation"?
Im looking for some written support for a retreat on the rushens from the dra thal gyur.

https://shop.shangshungfoundation.com/e ... 02507.html

Does this book contain the SMS rushens of Ratna Lingpa or the ones from the dra thal gyur?

[heart]

Anyone has a online version of "stairway to liberation"?
Im looking for some written support for a retreat on the rushens from the dra thal gyur.

https://shop.shangshungfoundation.com/e ... 02507.html

Does this book contain the SMS rushens of Ratna Lingpa or the ones from the dra thal gyur?

I think the rushens that you are looking are the one called "resting in naturalness" and "sustaining freshness" because I noticed that was what Elio was teaching. Never read anything on that from ChNNR that I can recall but they do exist in other Dzogchen teaching I got.

/magnus