Kunjed Gyalpo:The Supreme Source

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Malcolm
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Re: Kunjed Gyalpo:The Supreme Source

Post by Malcolm » Tue Jul 30, 2013 9:23 pm

mutsuk wrote: Jim Valby knows and understands what he translates.
Yes, I agree.

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-- Ārya-adhyāśaya-sañcodana-nāma-mahāyāna-sūtra

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Re: Kunjed Gyalpo:The Supreme Source

Post by Dorje Shedrub » Tue Jul 30, 2013 10:25 pm

Thanks everyone for the informarion. When I first read this I knew it was the best book I had ever read.
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Re: Kunjed Gyalpo:The Supreme Source

Post by dzogchungpa » Thu Aug 01, 2013 1:50 am

mutsuk wrote:I mean, her book displays nearly as many translation mistakes as Ann Klein's Unbounded Wholeness...
Tell us what you really think, mutsuk :smile:
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Re: Kunjed Gyalpo:The Supreme Source

Post by mutsuk » Thu Aug 01, 2013 7:34 am

What I really think is that Jim Valby's work on the Kun-byed eclipses other translations published so far of the same root-text. It is clear Dargyay did not understand what she "translated". Her explanation about feminizing the King (rgyal po in Kun byed rgyal po) into a Queen is simply ridiculous. It is just as stupid as Janet Gyatso explaining that the natural state is beyond gender but is nevertheless feminine... Who lacks a brain ?

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Re: Kunjed Gyalpo:The Supreme Source

Post by more urgent jest » Tue Nov 28, 2017 11:23 pm

the bits that Keith Dowman translated, in Eye of the Storm or Original Perfection, are an interesting counterpoint.

http://keithdowman.net/books/vairotsana ... storm.html

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Re: Kunjed Gyalpo:The Supreme Source

Post by tingdzin » Wed Nov 29, 2017 7:52 am

mutsuk wrote:
Thu Aug 01, 2013 7:34 am
It is just as stupid as Janet Gyatso explaining that the natural state is beyond gender but is nevertheless feminine...
Did she really do this? Care to tell us where, exactly? Her Apparitions is one of the most useful books on Vajrayana interpretation I have read, possibly because she included so much stuff from teachers like Khyentse and Chatral Rinpoches.

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