Pero wrote:username wrote:No that's wrong as my unedited post quoted below shows I said first inquire within the sangha and if still unhappy leave and be silent.
And as I said I don't disagree with that in general, except when there are some particular circumstances.
Sorry, I'm afraid I don't understand that last part, who hurt who?We are super clean and as the master recommends taking other teachers, unlike other lama$, and has hurt people from others too.
You gave that example so I just went along with it.Again that's wrong as that is a general advice he gives very often and very rarely does he mention the evil gyalpo's name.
And again, I don't disagree with that in general. However, if Rinpoche would think for example that getting sexually abused and then keeping quiet about it is what one should do then I'm afraid I'd have to disagree with him on that one.He says do not attack your former teacher in public.
This is routine in TB and has to do with karmic connections and Vajrayana Samayas which you often refer to.
Yes, I'm aware of that. I think it's all a little difficult really, and why it would be best to really evaluate most teachers before committing to them and perhaps there wouldn't even be such predicaments.
Thanks, to you too.Best wishes.
By hurt by others I mean people who were unhappy and hurt in previous situations and by teachers (not neccessarily only Buddhist teachers) who are now in our snagha. On the other point, sexually abused, I think there are certain cases. For example when someone is below legal age then that is abuse. Or someone is mentally unstable then that is abuse. But if someone was an adult and had relations with a male or female teacher for some time then that is not always, but sometimes, abuse. This is also the case in all countries where a judge and jury decides on a case by case basis. Nobody has issued a blanket command on such cases to be quiet. It all depends on circumstances of the case. It is funny the last thing on my mind was sexual matters, in fact not at all, but I merely meant doctrinal differences with one's previous teacher. But your karmic vision is more sexual than me. Anyway I am glad we agree on the other points. Good night.