Long Life Prayer for ChNN?

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Long Life Prayer for ChNN?

Post by Fa Dao » Mon Jun 20, 2011 11:54 pm

I dont remember which thread it was on but I do remember someone saying that there is a long life prayer for ChNN. If anyone has it and could post it I would be very appreciative.
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Re: Long Life Prayer for ChNN?

Post by Pema Rigdzin » Tue Jun 21, 2011 5:01 am

Ditto.

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Post by Sönam » Tue Jun 21, 2011 8:05 am

It does exist a Long Life Invocation for all masters in the "Tun" booklet ...

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Post by simhanada » Tue Jun 21, 2011 12:24 pm

As Sonam says, there is a long life invocation for the masters in the Tun book. Rinpoche has said that he would rather his students use this rather than any long life prayer said directly for him and has said that its his feeling that if his students do their practices seriously then he will have a long life.

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Post by Pema Rigdzin » Tue Jun 21, 2011 12:26 pm

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Post by Fa Dao » Tue Jun 21, 2011 4:00 pm

Cool
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Re: Long Life Prayer for ChNN?

Post by pemachophel » Tue Jun 21, 2011 7:55 pm

I've seen at least two shab-tens for ChNNR. The one I use on a daily basis is:

By the blessing power of the Three Jewels and all of the mandalas in one
And by that of the Three Roots and the ocean of Dharmapalas,
May the lotus feet of the tamers of beings, Namkhai Norbu, be secure
And may His great aim for the Teaching and beings be accomplished without obstacles.

As for a general long-life prayer for all Gurus together, I like this one written by the previous Dzongsar Khyentse:

Om Swasti
The primordial, all-pervasive nature of mind is beyond the changes of birth and death.
By this truth, may the lives of the non-sectarian protectors of the Teaching and beings remain steaqdfast,
And, by means of the unceasing ornament of the five times five aspects of Your Buddha activity,
May You shake all beings from the ocean of samsara.

I was taught that saying long-life prayers for the Gurus not only extends Their lives in this world but also extends the life of the person who says them. With my Root Guru, we never did any beneficial action no matter how small without 1) dedicating the merit, 2) saying the Teachers' shab-tens, and 3) saying at least a couple-few general aspiration prayers. Sometimes this felt very repetitive and pro forma. However, I have to say, that this practice has stood me in good stead these last four decades and more. In fact, I find myself saying more and more mon-lam, not less and less. But then that's just me.
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Post by Pero » Tue Jun 21, 2011 8:22 pm

pemachophel wrote:I've seen at least two shab-tens for ChNNR. The one I use on a daily basis is:

By the blessing power of the Three Jewels and all of the mandalas in one
And by that of the Three Roots and the ocean of Dharmapalas,
May the lotus feet of the tamers of beings, Namkhai Norbu, be secure
And may His great aim for the Teaching and beings be accomplished without obstacles.
Thanks a lot for sharing! Do you know what is the source of it? And do you still remember the other one too hehe?
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pemachophel wrote:I've seen at least two shab-tens for ChNNR. The one I use on a daily basis is:

By the blessing power of the Three Jewels and all of the mandalas in one
And by that of the Three Roots and the ocean of Dharmapalas,
May the lotus feet of the tamers of beings, Namkhai Norbu, be secure
And may His great aim for the Teaching and beings be accomplished without obstacles.

As for a general long-life prayer for all Gurus together, I like this one written by the previous Dzongsar Khyentse:

Om Swasti
The primordial, all-pervasive nature of mind is beyond the changes of birth and death.
By this truth, may the lives of the non-sectarian protectors of the Teaching and beings remain steaqdfast,
And, by means of the unceasing ornament of the five times five aspects of Your Buddha activity,
May You shake all beings from the ocean of samsara.

I was taught that saying long-life prayers for the Gurus not only extends Their lives in this world but also extends the life of the person who says them. With my Root Guru, we never did any beneficial action no matter how small without 1) dedicating the merit, 2) saying the Teachers' shab-tens, and 3) saying at least a couple-few general aspiration prayers. Sometimes this felt very repetitive and pro forma. However, I have to say, that this practice has stood me in good stead these last four decades and more. In fact, I find myself saying more and more mon-lam, not less and less. But then that's just me.
Excellent post by excellent practitioner benefiting beings constantly too.
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Post by Gyalpo » Tue Jun 21, 2011 11:57 pm

I do have a long life prayer for ChNN from one lama, if I remeber from some himalayan monastery in Nepal. Tomorrow I will scan it and post it here.

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Re: Long Life Prayer for ChNN?

Post by Pema Rigdzin » Fri Jun 24, 2011 6:24 am

Thanks Gyalpo!

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Post by Lukeinaz » Tue May 22, 2018 4:36 pm

Bump this
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Post by Sādhaka » Tue May 22, 2018 6:07 pm

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Re: Long Life Prayer for ChNN?

Post by javier.espinoza.t » Tue May 22, 2018 6:10 pm

Fa Dao wrote:
Mon Jun 20, 2011 11:54 pm
I dont remember which thread it was on but I do remember someone saying that there is a long life prayer for ChNN. If anyone has it and could post it I would be very appreciative.
Rinpoche has always been against having prayers composed for him

Instead, he says, one should do for all teachers.
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Tue Jun 21, 2011 8:05 am
It does exist a Long Life Invocation for all masters in the "Tun" booklet ...

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Post by Mantrik » Tue May 22, 2018 6:17 pm

From the DC recently re. 21st May - GURUYOGA:

Rinpoche has spent the last decades repeating tirelessly that the essential practice to do is to be in Guruyoga.

Months ago, in Dzamling Gar some people asked Rinpoche what practice we can do for Him, and He said to not worry about Him and do Guruyoga and your personal practice in the best way.


We have to remember that, and to be Present - it is very important for us as practitioners. If we really want to look after Rinpoche, we have to listen to Him.

When we do Guruyoga, we are Present and we keep our Samaya pure. We know very well that our Samaya is also related to Rinpoche's health. When we break our Samaya we can create disturbances for Him. We really need to develop our ability to be in a state of Guruyoga, so then all the practices that we apply can certainly work.
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Re: Long Life Prayer for ChNN?

Post by Tongnyid Dorje » Tue May 22, 2018 6:24 pm

I just started to use this one when Khandro Sangyum Kamala visited my place:

http://www.lotsawahouse.org/tibetan-mas ... u-rinpoche

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Post by Josef » Tue May 22, 2018 6:56 pm

Mantrik wrote:
Tue May 22, 2018 6:17 pm
From the DC recently re. 21st May - GURUYOGA:

Rinpoche has spent the last decades repeating tirelessly that the essential practice to do is to be in Guruyoga.

Months ago, in Dzamling Gar some people asked Rinpoche what practice we can do for Him, and He said to not worry about Him and do Guruyoga and your personal practice in the best way.


We have to remember that, and to be Present - it is very important for us as practitioners. If we really want to look after Rinpoche, we have to listen to Him.

When we do Guruyoga, we are Present and we keep our Samaya pure. We know very well that our Samaya is also related to Rinpoche's health. When we break our Samaya we can create disturbances for Him. We really need to develop our ability to be in a state of Guruyoga, so then all the practices that we apply can certainly work.
This.

Rinpoche has repeatedly, over decades implored his students to practice guru yoga and collaborate with one another rather than seek out elaborate practices and prayers.
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Re: Long Life Prayer for ChNN?

Post by Lukeinaz » Tue May 22, 2018 7:58 pm

Josef wrote:
Tue May 22, 2018 6:56 pm
Mantrik wrote:
Tue May 22, 2018 6:17 pm
From the DC recently re. 21st May - GURUYOGA:

Rinpoche has spent the last decades repeating tirelessly that the essential practice to do is to be in Guruyoga.

Months ago, in Dzamling Gar some people asked Rinpoche what practice we can do for Him, and He said to not worry about Him and do Guruyoga and your personal practice in the best way.


We have to remember that, and to be Present - it is very important for us as practitioners. If we really want to look after Rinpoche, we have to listen to Him.

When we do Guruyoga, we are Present and we keep our Samaya pure. We know very well that our Samaya is also related to Rinpoche's health. When we break our Samaya we can create disturbances for Him. We really need to develop our ability to be in a state of Guruyoga, so then all the practices that we apply can certainly work.
This.

Rinpoche has repeatedly, over decades implored his students to practice guru yoga and collaborate with one another rather than seek out elaborate practices and prayers.
I don't find this prayer very elaborate. For me its a concise way of arousing devotion.
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Re: Long Life Prayer for ChNN?

Post by Josef » Tue May 22, 2018 8:27 pm

Lukeinaz wrote:
Tue May 22, 2018 7:58 pm
Josef wrote:
Tue May 22, 2018 6:56 pm
Mantrik wrote:
Tue May 22, 2018 6:17 pm
From the DC recently re. 21st May - GURUYOGA:

Rinpoche has spent the last decades repeating tirelessly that the essential practice to do is to be in Guruyoga.

Months ago, in Dzamling Gar some people asked Rinpoche what practice we can do for Him, and He said to not worry about Him and do Guruyoga and your personal practice in the best way.


We have to remember that, and to be Present - it is very important for us as practitioners. If we really want to look after Rinpoche, we have to listen to Him.

When we do Guruyoga, we are Present and we keep our Samaya pure. We know very well that our Samaya is also related to Rinpoche's health. When we break our Samaya we can create disturbances for Him. We really need to develop our ability to be in a state of Guruyoga, so then all the practices that we apply can certainly work.
This.

Rinpoche has repeatedly, over decades implored his students to practice guru yoga and collaborate with one another rather than seek out elaborate practices and prayers.
I don't find this prayer very elaborate. For me its a concise way of arousing devotion.
I wasnt saying this particular prayer was elaborate.
I was commenting on how we tend to gravitate toward adding on complexity rather than following the advice of the teacher.
Kye ma!
The river of continuity is marked by impermanence.
Ceaseless flowing of appearance.
Beautiful and repulsive.
The dance of life and death is a display of the vast expanse.
With gratitude the watcher and the watched pass through the barrier of duality.

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