ChNNR Dorje Drolo retreat

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Which files were people talking about on this thread here?
http://www.tbrc.org/#library_BannerSear ... orje+drolo"" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

^ I searched Dorje Drolo, but there's quite a few files. Apparently one of them is one we should grab?
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padma norbu wrote:Which files were people talking about on this thread here?
http://www.tbrc.org/#library_BannerSear ... orje+drolo"" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

^ I searched Dorje Drolo, but there's quite a few files. Apparently one of them is one we should grab?
There is a collection of Dorje Drolo works by in Adzom Drukpa's collected works.
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So, to recap, he basically just said we can do a short tun but use Dorje Drolo rather than Guru Dragpur, right? That is basically the practice? But, of course, the risk is I might become mentally unstable, right? I didn't hear him mention any warnings about that, though.
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padma norbu wrote:So, to recap, he basically just said we can do a short tun but use Dorje Drolo rather than Guru Dragpur, right? That is basically the practice?
Precisely.
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Regarding the root mantra and action mantra, is the recitation ratio about the same? For example, if one does 100 recitations of the root mantra, would one do 10 recitations of the action mantra?
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Mr. G wrote:Regarding the root mantra and action mantra, is the recitation ratio about the same? For example, if one does 100 recitations of the root mantra, would one do 10 recitations of the action mantra?
No, he said you do it 3 times at most.
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To me it seems that the daily practice is the one explained yesterday witch is pretty much similar to Guru Tragphur.

So i think that the visualizations done today are only done for the purpose of receiving the initiation and we dont do them during daily practice..
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Mr. G wrote:Regarding the root mantra and action mantra, is the recitation ratio about the same? For example, if one does 100 recitations of the root mantra, would one do 10 recitations of the action mantra?
As far as I remember, Rinpoche said that it should be recited 3 times just like in the case of Simhamukha.
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Pero wrote:
Mr. G wrote:Regarding the root mantra and action mantra, is the recitation ratio about the same? For example, if one does 100 recitations of the root mantra, would one do 10 recitations of the action mantra?
No, he said you do it 3 times at most.
Kilaya. wrote:
Mr. G wrote:Regarding the root mantra and action mantra, is the recitation ratio about the same? For example, if one does 100 recitations of the root mantra, would one do 10 recitations of the action mantra?
As far as I remember, Rinpoche said that it should be recited 3 times just like in the case of Simhamukha.

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I have this like "clear" feeling in my head like when I was doing semdzins regularly. Is this rigpa? or more like the after-effects of rigpa?
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Hi

Does anyone have time to PM me the instructions for the concise practice/visualisation for the mantra recitation that Rinpoche explained yesterday, so I can be sure I've got it right?

Thanks
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So, what about the warnings from people earlier? Did Namkhai Norbu even suggest the possibility that I might go nuts if I do this practice today? I didn't hear him say anything about such risks at all.
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MrDistracted wrote:Hi

Does anyone have time to PM me the instructions for the concise practice/visualisation for the mantra recitation that Rinpoche explained yesterday, so I can be sure I've got it right?

Thanks
Basically the same as the short tun, but replace Guru Tragphur/Simhamukha along with their mantras with Dorje Drolo and his mantras.

I'd also like to know the answer to that question padma norbu, but the retreat isn't over yet and there must be a reason Rinpoche decided to make the webcast open at the last minute. Pretty fortuitous for me since I got my webcast login revoked.
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Sherlock wrote: I'd also like to know the answer to that question padma norbu, but the retreat isn't over yet and there must be a reason Rinpoche decided to make the webcast open at the last minute. Pretty fortuitous for me since I got my webcast login revoked.
Didn't pay your membership fee for 2012?

the retreat is over to me because I go back to work on Monday. I can listen to the replays, but not possible to fidget with a bad connection while trying to look like I'm working. :) Too bad the mobile version isn't stable; I could totally get away with that.
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I haven't payed my membership fee for 2012 yet but can still use my login. But I think Merigar East is usually kind of late on collecting fees (I think I payed about this time last year too), haven't received any emails about this year so far. Or maybe they are using Tibetan years haha.
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Nangwa wrote:
padma norbu wrote:Which files were people talking about on this thread here?
http://www.tbrc.org/#library_BannerSear ... orje+drolo"" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

^ I searched Dorje Drolo, but there's quite a few files. Apparently one of them is one we should grab?
There is a collection of Dorje Drolo works by in Adzom Drukpa's collected works.
They are here:
http://tbrc.org/#library_work_Object-W30344
584 pages. previously, Namdrol said a short sadhana was on pages 133-135.

Near the end of the webcaste, ChNNR said that you can do the mantras as part of the short tun, or if you prefer rituals you could get a book like this. I assume he showed a book but I was on audio so I couldn't see. Could anyone see what that book was? He also suggested that doing a longer Drolo sadhana was more useful if one faced illness or provocations from spirits.

Personally, I prefer longer sadhanas and will probably stick with the longer Tersar sadhana I have. Dudjom Rinpoche also composed a number of other short sadhanas which make the essence of the practice explicit.
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michaelb wrote:
Nangwa wrote:
padma norbu wrote:Which files were people talking about on this thread here?
http://www.tbrc.org/#library_BannerSear ... orje+drolo"" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

^ I searched Dorje Drolo, but there's quite a few files. Apparently one of them is one we should grab?
There is a collection of Dorje Drolo works by in Adzom Drukpa's collected works.
They are here:
http://tbrc.org/#library_work_Object-W30344
584 pages. previously, Namdrol said a short sadhana was on pages 133-135.

Near the end of the webcaste, ChNNR said that you can do the mantras as part of the short tun, or if you prefer rituals you could get a book like this. I assume he showed a book but I was on audio so I couldn't see. Could anyone see what that book was? He also suggested that doing a longer Drolo sadhana was more useful if one faced illness or provocations from spirits.
I didn't see but assume that he was talking about Adzom Drugpa's terma.
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Does anyone happen to know which, if any, Dorje Drollo empowerments are in the Rinchen Terdzod?

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I think one of them is a terma discovered by the Fifth Dalai Lama and another by Dudul Dorje. And I'm guessing it may include a Jangter Drolo.
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