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Re: the drajyor macabre

Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 6:58 pm
by oldbob
Tara wrote:
Blue Garuda wrote:The books look very pricey (£60)
Wisdom Books (UK) have "Manual of Standard Tibetan" priced at £47.59, http://www.wisdom-books.com/ProductDetail.asp?PID=11986" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

$51.50 US, new, on eBay US with free USA shipping.

$46.52 US new, on Amazon with free "Supersaver" shipping.

Thanks for mentioning this new manual. I collect them and put them under my pillow, sometimes, in hopes it will do some good. No luck yet.

Maybe this one is different. :smile:

:thanks:

ob

Re: the drajyor macabre

Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 7:15 pm
by conebeckham
Hey Malcolm-

Isn't that Manual of Standard Tibetan focused more on colloq.? I've not seen it, but reading the blurbs leads me to believe it's more about spoken Tibetan....??

Re: the drajyor macabre

Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 7:18 pm
by Blue Garuda
Yudron wrote:
Blue Garuda wrote:
Malcolm wrote:
Just learn Tibetan.
The books look very pricey (£60)

Is this one any good? : TIBETAN GRAMMAR by H. A. JASCHKE
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Tibetan-Grammar ... 319&sr=1-1" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Or is there an online course you could recommend?

Jaschke was a 19th century Christian Missionary to Tibet.

The Manual of Standard Tibetan is the new standard of excellence, I hear from all sources.
Thanks. :)

Re: the drajyor macabre

Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 8:00 pm
by username
IMO, a beginner learner, Manual of Standard Tibetan is most helpful followed by Fluent Tibetan in second place:
http://www.amazon.com/Manual-Standard-T ... 1559391898" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.amazon.com/Fluent-Tibetan-Pr ... 1559390212" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Also for classical, hopefully to do later, I already like:
http://www.amazon.com/Translating-Buddh ... 0937938343" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: the drajyor macabre

Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 8:58 pm
by treehuggingoctopus
Thanks, folks. All help much appreciated.

Still, I wonder: of what use is the bleeding drajyor book? How come it is so far away from ChNN's actual pronunciation? I'm not sure if I should blame allophones - or editors?

Re: the drajyor macabre

Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 11:58 pm
by T. Chokyi
Blue Garuda wrote:
Tara wrote:
Blue Garuda wrote:The books look very pricey (£60)
Wisdom Books (UK) have "Manual of Standard Tibetan" priced at £47.59, http://www.wisdom-books.com/ProductDetail.asp?PID=11986" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Thanks. :)

I'm into free eBooks when I can get them. Xmas for the book, maybe.
I accidentally bought two of the drajyor book, recently I bought one in person at a two week retreat,
and I forgot I had ordered one, so now I have two of these, so Blue Garuda, do you have that book?
If you want one for free, just PM me your addy and I"ll send you this book to compliment your studies.

Re: the drajyor macabre

Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 12:06 am
by Malcolm
conebeckham wrote:Hey Malcolm-

Isn't that Manual of Standard Tibetan focused more on colloq.? I've not seen it, but reading the blurbs leads me to believe it's more about spoken Tibetan....??
It is not exclusively focused on colloquial.

Re: the drajyor macabre

Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 2:45 am
by windoverwater
Are DC practice texts available in Tibetan?

Re: the drajyor macabre

Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 3:36 am
by Dknaga12
43 % off at Book Depsoitory UK 38.11 Pounds includes free shipping worlwide, 10 day delivery time.
http://www.bookdepository.co.uk/Manual- ... rrency=GBP" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; :namaste:

Re: the drajyor macabre

Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 6:37 am
by Blue Garuda
T. Chokyi wrote: I accidentally bought two of the drajyor book, recently I bought one in person at a two week retreat,
and I forgot I had ordered one, so now I have two of these, so Blue Garuda, do you have that book?
If you want one for free, just PM me your addy and I"ll send you this book to compliment your studies.
Thanks. :)
That's very kind.

Re: the drajyor macabre

Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 9:58 am
by muni
People are very kind. :anjali:

Are there pocket facilities in the bardo?

Re: the drajyor macabre

Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 12:12 pm
by treehuggingoctopus
windoverwater wrote:Are DC practice texts available in Tibetan?
Many of them are. Not all, unfortunately - Chod and Mandarava aren't, for instance.

Re: the drajyor macabre

Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 12:13 pm
by treehuggingoctopus
Dknaga12 wrote:43 % off at Book Depsoitory UK 38.11 Pounds includes free shipping worlwide, 10 day delivery time.
http://www.bookdepository.co.uk/Manual- ... rrency=GBP" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; :namaste:
Not anymore :-(

Re: the drajyor macabre

Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 6:09 pm
by arsent
treehuggingoctopus wrote:
Dknaga12 wrote:43 % off at Book Depsoitory UK 38.11 Pounds includes free shipping worlwide, 10 day delivery time.
http://www.bookdepository.co.uk/Manual- ... rrency=GBP" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; :namaste:
Not anymore :-(
Still price to high :(
In US I've ordered it for $46.52 with free shipping
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/155939 ... 00_s00_i00

So,try to order from amzon.com instead of amazon.co.uk...

Re: the drajyor macabre

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2012 2:54 am
by dzogchungpa

Re: the drajyor macabre

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2012 3:12 am
by Pema Rigdzin
treehuggingoctopus wrote:
windoverwater wrote:Are DC practice texts available in Tibetan?
Many of them are. Not all, unfortunately - Chod and Mandarava aren't, for instance.
You must have a different edition of the Mandarava sadhana than I do. If you're interested, the Mandarava sadhana in the restricted files section of the webcast site has Tibetan script, transliteration, and English..

Re: the drajyor macabre

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2012 4:39 am
by Dknaga12
@ dzogchungpa, very nice! Thank you for posting the link. :namaste:

Re: the drajyor macabre

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2012 9:12 am
by treehuggingoctopus
Pema Rigdzin wrote:
treehuggingoctopus wrote:
windoverwater wrote:Are DC practice texts available in Tibetan?
Many of them are. Not all, unfortunately - Chod and Mandarava aren't, for instance.
You must have a different edition of the Mandarava sadhana than I do. If you're interested, the Mandarava sadhana in the restricted files section of the webcast site has Tibetan script, transliteration, and English..
Thanks!

Re: the drajyor macabre

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2012 12:51 pm
by ratna
treehuggingoctopus wrote:
windoverwater wrote:Are DC practice texts available in Tibetan?
Many of them are. Not all, unfortunately - Chod and Mandarava aren't, for instance.
The Tibetan text of Chod is in the Dzogchen Ritual Practices book.

R

Re: the drajyor macabre

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2012 1:32 pm
by mañjughoṣamaṇi
Yudron wrote:"sgra sbyor meanings "putting sounds together" and is the name of ChNN's transcripton system."

Oh, I was guessing perhaps it was a "joining with sound" practice.
It is a more general term than the name of ChNN's transcription system. It really just refers to phonetics in general. There are several different sgra sbyor texts up on TBRC and there are others not yet up that cover regional phonetics.

What treehuggingoctopus is referring to specifically is one of Rinpoche's texts explaining, as Malcolm mentioned, Rinpoche's phonetic, pinyin-based, transcription system.