That is an odd claim considering that you have done nothing to actually defend or explain your position other than claiming the ignorance of others.SSJ3Gogeta wrote:You don't understand the basis (gzhi) of Dzogchen upadesha. Its as simple as that.Josef wrote: You can say that but it is clear that there are subtleties that are being ignored.
Eliminate all delusion regarding the basis with dream yoga?
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"All phenomena of samsara depend on the mind, so when the essence of mind is purified, samsara is purified. Since the phenomena of nirvana depend on the pristine consciousness of vidyā, because one remains in the immediacy of vidyā, buddhahood arises on its own. All critical points are summarized with those two." - Longchenpa
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Re: Eliminate all delusion regarding the basis with dream yoga?
waste of my time
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Not the way you have.SSJ3Gogeta wrote:
I don't need to defend my position. Malcolm has explained the same subject over and over over again.
"All phenomena of samsara depend on the mind, so when the essence of mind is purified, samsara is purified. Since the phenomena of nirvana depend on the pristine consciousness of vidyā, because one remains in the immediacy of vidyā, buddhahood arises on its own. All critical points are summarized with those two." - Longchenpa
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Josef wrote: Not the way you have.
Yeah I just used pretty much the exact phraseology. Whatever dude.
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You used the exact phraseology he used in reference to a different topic.SSJ3Gogeta wrote:Josef wrote: Not the way you have.
Yeah I just used pretty much the exact phraseology. Whatever dude.
"All phenomena of samsara depend on the mind, so when the essence of mind is purified, samsara is purified. Since the phenomena of nirvana depend on the pristine consciousness of vidyā, because one remains in the immediacy of vidyā, buddhahood arises on its own. All critical points are summarized with those two." - Longchenpa
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Dude, frankly you don't know what you are talking about.Josef wrote: You used the exact phraseology he used in reference to a different topic.
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Explain it to me then.SSJ3Gogeta wrote:Dude, frankly you don't know what you are talking about.Josef wrote: You used the exact phraseology he used in reference to a different topic.
With precision and clarity please.
"All phenomena of samsara depend on the mind, so when the essence of mind is purified, samsara is purified. Since the phenomena of nirvana depend on the pristine consciousness of vidyā, because one remains in the immediacy of vidyā, buddhahood arises on its own. All critical points are summarized with those two." - Longchenpa
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I agree that this is going nowhere and simply generating ill will. Topic locked. Finito.
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