I do not think it's accurate to say the late Thinley norbu rinpoche would disagree. You make it seem as if he's waving a flag on having no lineage. Rather he is saying there are rare exceptions. Still in general, and unless you are one of those rare beings, you do need lineage, and without lineage there is nothing. Here are some other things Thinley norbu rinpoche said about lineage to give a more well rounded perspective.conebeckham wrote: ↑Fri Sep 07, 2018 7:14 pmWould you care to flesh that out a bit, Florin? I, for one, have no context and therefore no idea what you are talking about.
Here Rinpoche has some strong words for those who do not believe in lineage.
From Gypsy gossip "In buddhism lineage is essential. It has nothing to do with race or nationality, because it is a lineage of impartial compassion and stainless wisdom that is imparted by transmission. The main key for assessing Buddhism in the West is to notice that many Westerners do not want to accept any tradition from Buddhism in a pure way; they want to create their own form of Buddhism, which becomes non-Buddhist. Many western Buddhist teachers do not accept the importance of Buddhist lineage, and that nonacceptance has become their lineage. Like Henry VIII, who broke away from his own church just so he could divorce, the intentions of these Western teachers have nothing to do with benefiting all beings through the victorious lineage of wisdom. They have not made a spiritual connection to Buddhist lineage, so they leave it out of their versions of Buddhism, which are not based on faith in actual Buddhism or any phenomena of enlightenment, but on ordinary concerns of human beings. Whatever they write about Buddhism is only for themselves personally or for others with the same cultural perspective of rejecting reliance on sublime beings, which makes a lineageless lineage with no blessing to open wisdom. In contrast, in the history of previous Buddhist lineage holders, there were practitioners and saints who were not only from Tibet, but from other lands such as India and China, who searched for unbroken lineage holders from whom they could receive Buddhist lineage. They did this without considering race or nationality, but considering how they could receive the blessing of wisdom from sublime beings with realization in order to be able to hold the lineage teachings of Buddha and for these teachings to be able to flourish. They were not trying to find a way to be personally acknowledged of materially rewarded, but to attain enlightenment for all beings. Due to belief, Tibetans in my time were concerned about being able to receive teachings, blessings, and lineage, and many traveled long distances searching for highly realized teachers who could bestow these. "
If you look through TNR's writings they are full of teachings talking about the importance of an unbroken lineage, receiving the blessings of the lineage, and keeping the lineages purely.