Longchen Nyingtig Initiation

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Longchen Nyingtig Initiation

Post by XXIlluminatingVoid72 » Fri Jan 27, 2017 6:03 am

Hello Dharma community,

I am wondering if I could get some input regarding how I could get the lung and wang for the Longchen Nyingtik sadhanas. Let me give you some background. I have learned from some lamas in the Kagyu tradition, got some basic empowerments for Guru Rinpoche, Chenrezig, but haven't been able to stay in contact with them. However, by myself I study and practice a lot, I do Ngondro, study lojong, guru yoga, vipassana and shamata, read voraciously all the great lamas and translations coming out, meditate in most of my free time. I am wondering, if I found a lama who gives this teaching (how would I do this), what the process is to receive the empowerments. Would I need to study under them for years or what is the general process? Could I simply ask a lama and receive the instruction? Sorry if my questions are ignorant! I admit I am much more ignorant than many here which is why I am asking for assistance. Thank you

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Re: Longchen Nyingtig Initiation

Post by Karma_Yeshe » Fri Jan 27, 2017 8:37 am

XXIlluminatingVoid72 wrote:Hello Dharma community,

I am wondering if I could get some input regarding how I could get the lung and wang for the Longchen Nyingtik sadhanas. Let me give you some background. I have learned from some lamas in the Kagyu tradition, got some basic empowerments for Guru Rinpoche, Chenrezig, but haven't been able to stay in contact with them. However, by myself I study and practice a lot, I do Ngondro, study lojong, guru yoga, vipassana and shamata, read voraciously all the great lamas and translations coming out, meditate in most of my free time. I am wondering, if I found a lama who gives this teaching (how would I do this), what the process is to receive the empowerments. Would I need to study under them for years or what is the general process? Could I simply ask a lama and receive the instruction? Sorry if my questions are ignorant! I admit I am much more ignorant than many here which is why I am asking for assistance. Thank you
Hello,

first of all it would help if you tell us where you live and how far you could travel for how long.

All the best!
Karma Yeshe

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Post by dzoki » Fri Jan 27, 2017 3:02 pm

XXIlluminatingVoid72 wrote:Hello Dharma community,

I am wondering if I could get some input regarding how I could get the lung and wang for the Longchen Nyingtik sadhanas. Let me give you some background. I have learned from some lamas in the Kagyu tradition, got some basic empowerments for Guru Rinpoche, Chenrezig, but haven't been able to stay in contact with them. However, by myself I study and practice a lot, I do Ngondro, study lojong, guru yoga, vipassana and shamata, read voraciously all the great lamas and translations coming out, meditate in most of my free time. I am wondering, if I found a lama who gives this teaching (how would I do this), what the process is to receive the empowerments. Would I need to study under them for years or what is the general process? Could I simply ask a lama and receive the instruction? Sorry if my questions are ignorant! I admit I am much more ignorant than many here which is why I am asking for assistance. Thank you
If you are in Europe, I suggest you get in touch with Tulku Dakpa Rinpoche, he is a great teacher and does teach LN to his students, provided that, they are serious about their practice. He lives in Finland but also travels to Scandinavian countries, Poland, Czech Republic, Slovakia and Belgium on more or less regular basis.

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Post by XXIlluminatingVoid72 » Fri Jan 27, 2017 4:19 pm

I live on the west coast of Canada, near Vancouver. If I needed to travel somewhere on this side of the continent I could find some time, say a couple weeks.

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Post by dzogchungpa » Fri Jan 27, 2017 5:38 pm

You might want to contact Kilung Rinpoche's group, which is based in Whidbey Island, WA. See: http://www.pemakilaya.org/. I know that they practice the LN there. I have not been there, but I have received teachings from KR and I can definitely recommend him. He has a very powerful presence, speaks English fluently and seems to be very kind and approachable.
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Post by XXIlluminatingVoid72 » Fri Jan 27, 2017 6:12 pm

dzogchungpa wrote:You might want to contact Kilung Rinpoche's group, which is based in Whidbey Island, WA. See: http://www.pemakilaya.org/. I know that they practice the LN there. I have not been there, but I have received teachings from KR and I can definitely recommend him. He has a very powerful presence, speaks English fluently and seems to be very kind and approachable.
That could be a great option, it's nearby. Thanks a lot. I'll look into it.

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Post by Matt J » Fri Jan 27, 2017 7:51 pm

Dza Kilung doesn't hold back.
XXIlluminatingVoid72 wrote:
dzogchungpa wrote:You might want to contact Kilung Rinpoche's group, which is based in Whidbey Island, WA. See: http://www.pemakilaya.org/. I know that they practice the LN there. I have not been there, but I have received teachings from KR and I can definitely recommend him. He has a very powerful presence, speaks English fluently and seems to be very kind and approachable.
That could be a great option, it's nearby. Thanks a lot. I'll look into it.
"The essence of meditation practice is to let go of all your expectations about meditation. All the qualities of your natural mind -- peace, openness, relaxation, and clarity -- are present in your mind just as it is. You don't have to do anything different. You don't have to shift or change your awareness. All you have to do while observing your mind is to recognize the qualities it already has."
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Post by tingdzin » Sat Jan 28, 2017 7:27 am

Yes, Kilung Rinpoche is good.

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Post by dzogchungpa » Sat Jan 28, 2017 6:34 pm

I just thought of another place, practically in your backyard, that you might want to look into,
Lingtrul Rinpoche's centre: http://www.kathokcentre.ca/.
I am not so familiar with him but I know that he is an important Nyingma master and that the main practice there is LN.
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Post by Palzang Jangchub » Sun Jan 29, 2017 11:00 am

dzogchungpa wrote:I just thought of another place, practically in your backyard, that you might want to look into,
Lingtrul Rinpoche's centre: http://www.kathokcentre.ca/.
I am not so familiar with him but I know that he is an important Nyingma master and that the main practice there is LN.
Anyone who considers Khenpo Münsel Rinpoche to be their root guru and received Dzogchen instructions from him is good in my book! Kyabjé Garchen Rinpoche and Traga Rinpoche fall into this category alongside Lingtrul Rinpoche.

Also, in my limited experience, Kat'hok lamas seem to be very good teachers in general. Khentrul Lodrö T'hayé Rinpoche was very thorough, obviously very knowledgeable both intellectually and experientially, and always stuck to the heart of the matter. If Lingtrul Rinpoche is anything like that, I'd highly recommend you go soak up as much as you possibly can!
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Post by conebeckham » Sun Jan 29, 2017 9:05 pm

You cannot go wrong with Lingtrul Rinpoche.
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Re: Longchen Nyingtig Initiation

Post by XXIlluminatingVoid72 » Mon Jan 30, 2017 6:42 pm

dzogchungpa wrote:I just thought of another place, practically in your backyard, that you might want to look into,
Lingtrul Rinpoche's centre: http://www.kathokcentre.ca/.
I am not so familiar with him but I know that he is an important Nyingma master and that the main practice there is LN.
Oh wow, that is in my backyard! Thank you so much, I can't believe I haven't heard of this place. I will be contacting them soon. Thanks to others for their confirmation of this teacher. This is exactly what I was looking for. Many blessings

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Post by dzogchungpa » Mon Jan 30, 2017 7:55 pm

XXIlluminatingVoid72 wrote:
dzogchungpa wrote:I just thought of another place, practically in your backyard, that you might want to look into,
Lingtrul Rinpoche's centre: http://www.kathokcentre.ca/.
I am not so familiar with him but I know that he is an important Nyingma master and that the main practice there is LN.
Oh wow, that is in my backyard! Thank you so much, I can't believe I haven't heard of this place. I will be contacting them soon. Thanks to others for their confirmation of this teacher. This is exactly what I was looking for. Many blessings
My pleasure. :smile:
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Post by Wsong0000 » Fri Aug 24, 2018 10:36 pm

I am in the same status with this posting owner. Could you recommend LN teachers in Asia, speaking English?

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Post by full.autumn.moon » Fri Aug 31, 2018 3:21 pm

Wsong0000 wrote:
Fri Aug 24, 2018 10:36 pm
I am in the same status with this posting owner. Could you recommend LN teachers in Asia, speaking English?
You could request Dzongsar Khyentse Rinpoche. He generally bestows the LNN lung if requested. He also has an online community practicing the LN Ngondro under his guidance. Its called the ngondro gar.
Good luck.

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Post by Wsong0000 » Fri Aug 31, 2018 7:54 pm

full.autumn.moon wrote:
Fri Aug 31, 2018 3:21 pm
Wsong0000 wrote:
Fri Aug 24, 2018 10:36 pm
I am in the same status with this posting owner. Could you recommend LN teachers in Asia, speaking English?
You could request Dzongsar Khyentse Rinpoche. He generally bestows the LNN lung if requested. He also has an online community practicing the LN Ngondro under his guidance. Its called the ngondro gar.
Good luck.
Thanks for your information. How can I request the LUNG? Should I visit the monastery or any other ways?

And are there any recommended teachers in East Asia?

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Post by LolCat » Fri Aug 31, 2018 9:36 pm

Wsong0000 wrote:
Fri Aug 31, 2018 7:54 pm
full.autumn.moon wrote:
Fri Aug 31, 2018 3:21 pm
Wsong0000 wrote:
Fri Aug 24, 2018 10:36 pm
I am in the same status with this posting owner. Could you recommend LN teachers in Asia, speaking English?
You could request Dzongsar Khyentse Rinpoche. He generally bestows the LNN lung if requested. He also has an online community practicing the LN Ngondro under his guidance. Its called the ngondro gar.
Good luck.
Thanks for your information. How can I request the LUNG? Should I visit the monastery or any other ways?

And are there any recommended teachers in East Asia?
https://ngondrogar.org/en/contact_us

You can try contacting them, I think it was mentioned that it is okay for someone to begin the ngondro with the intention of getting the lung asap in the future.
It would be better to contact them to confirm this before you start though.

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Post by full.autumn.moon » Sat Sep 01, 2018 11:19 pm

Wsong0000 wrote:
Fri Aug 31, 2018 7:54 pm
full.autumn.moon wrote:
Fri Aug 31, 2018 3:21 pm
Wsong0000 wrote:
Fri Aug 24, 2018 10:36 pm
I am in the same status with this posting owner. Could you recommend LN teachers in Asia, speaking English?
You could request Dzongsar Khyentse Rinpoche. He generally bestows the LNN lung if requested. He also has an online community practicing the LN Ngondro under his guidance. Its called the ngondro gar.
Good luck.
Thanks for your information. How can I request the LUNG? Should I visit the monastery or any other ways?

And are there any recommended teachers in East Asia?
Yes. Best to contact them directly. There are few of Rinpoche's senior students who guide practitioners on ngondrogar. They can answer your questions. Its quite a supportive place to practice with guidance and material.
If you attend a teaching by Rinpoche in person you can request the lung as well.

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Re: Longchen Nyingtig Initiation

Post by Wsong0000 » Sun Sep 02, 2018 4:05 pm

full.autumn.moon wrote:
Sat Sep 01, 2018 11:19 pm
Wsong0000 wrote:
Fri Aug 31, 2018 7:54 pm
full.autumn.moon wrote:
Fri Aug 31, 2018 3:21 pm

Yes. Best to contact them directly. There are few of Rinpoche's senior students who guide practitioners on ngondrogar. They can answer your questions. Its quite a supportive place to practice with guidance and material.
If you attend a teaching by Rinpoche in person you can request the lung as well.
Deepest thanks on you.

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