Which lineage to choose?

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Which lineage to choose?

Post by MatthewAngby » Sun Nov 12, 2017 3:07 pm

Hello again guys. I’m so confused to which lineage I should follow. Anyway I will tell you all what my interests are and I hope you all could tell me which lineage actually fits my interests.

- I love to Chant mantras and put practise as my main
- I am interested in rituals and the use of ritual objects
- I am also interested in Kurukulle’s practise
- I would prefer not to engage much in study ( sorry if I have offended anyone )
- I like it when there are many different practices in the lineage .

So I hope you all could recommend a lineage to me. Thank you ! :)

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Re: Which lineage to choose?

Post by heart » Sun Nov 12, 2017 3:16 pm

MatthewAngby wrote:
Sun Nov 12, 2017 3:07 pm
Hello again guys. I’m so confused to which lineage I should follow. Anyway I will tell you all what my interests are and I hope you all could tell me which lineage actually fits my interests.

- I love to Chant mantras and put practise as my main
- I am interested in rituals and the use of ritual objects
- I am also interested in Kurukulle’s practise
- I would prefer not to engage much in study ( sorry if I have offended anyone )
- I like it when there are many different practices in the lineage .

So I hope you all could recommend a lineage to me. Thank you ! :)
Don't follow a lineage, follow a Guru. Spend a few years taking teachings that interest you and eventually you will find a qualified Guru.

/magnus
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Re: Which lineage to choose?

Post by Meido » Sun Nov 12, 2017 4:54 pm

heart wrote:
Sun Nov 12, 2017 3:16 pm
Don't follow a lineage, follow a Guru.
Excuse me for chiming in here, but to my mind this is essential advice that applies across traditions.

I wouldn't be disappointed if these words were added to the top of the site page.

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Re: Which lineage to choose?

Post by Malcolm » Sun Nov 12, 2017 6:59 pm

Meido wrote:
Sun Nov 12, 2017 4:54 pm
heart wrote:
Sun Nov 12, 2017 3:16 pm
Don't follow a lineage, follow a Guru.
Excuse me for chiming in here, but to my mind this is essential advice that applies across traditions.

I wouldn't be disappointed if these words were added to the top of the site page.

~ Meido
I would only add one word: "Don't follow a lineage, follow a qualified Guru.
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Re: Which lineage to choose?

Post by Malcolm » Sun Nov 12, 2017 7:04 pm

MatthewAngby wrote:
Sun Nov 12, 2017 3:07 pm
Hello again guys. I’m so confused to which lineage I should follow. Anyway I will tell you all what my interests are and I hope you all could tell me which lineage actually fits my interests.

- I love to Chant mantras and put practise as my main
- I am interested in rituals and the use of ritual objects
- I am also interested in Kurukulle’s practise
- I would prefer not to engage much in study ( sorry if I have offended anyone )
- I like it when there are many different practices in the lineage .

So I hope you all could recommend a lineage to me. Thank you ! :)
Having added my two cents above, that said, all four schools of Tibetan Buddhism (five if one counts Jonang) have Kurukulle practice.

All four or five schools have many different kinds of practice, rituals, mantras, etc.

Study is necessary, but it is not necessary to become a major scholar. One must study enough however that one understands Buddhadharma in a proper way. Remember, there are three trainings, discipline, samadhi, and wisdom; and in the latter there are three wisdoms; the wisdom of hearing, the wisdom of reflection, and the wisdom of cultivation. So some study is unavoidable. Sorry if this bothers you.
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The knowledge imparted through the guru’s instructions that formerly was unknown (avidyā) is vidyā.


—Treasury of the Supreme Vehicle, Longchenpa.

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Re: Which lineage to choose?

Post by Johnny Dangerous » Sun Nov 12, 2017 7:17 pm

Don't only do what you prefer.
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Re: Which lineage to choose?

Post by Sonam Wangchug » Sun Nov 12, 2017 7:20 pm

heart wrote:
Sun Nov 12, 2017 3:16 pm
MatthewAngby wrote:
Sun Nov 12, 2017 3:07 pm
Hello again guys. I’m so confused to which lineage I should follow. Anyway I will tell you all what my interests are and I hope you all could tell me which lineage actually fits my interests.

- I love to Chant mantras and put practise as my main
- I am interested in rituals and the use of ritual objects
- I am also interested in Kurukulle’s practise
- I would prefer not to engage much in study ( sorry if I have offended anyone )
- I like it when there are many different practices in the lineage .

So I hope you all could recommend a lineage to me. Thank you ! :)
Don't follow a lineage, follow a Guru. Spend a few years taking teachings that interest you and eventually you will find a qualified Guru.

/magnus
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Re: Which lineage to choose?

Post by MatthewAngby » Sun Nov 12, 2017 11:58 pm

I see. Thanks everyone ! :)

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Re: Which lineage to choose?

Post by Virgo » Mon Nov 13, 2017 2:18 am

MatthewAngby wrote:
Sun Nov 12, 2017 11:58 pm
I see. Thanks everyone ! :)
Qualified is the key word, as Malcolm added in.

It's really important to observe a guru before making a decision to receive teachings from them.

Kevin

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Re: Which lineage to choose?

Post by Bruce » Mon Nov 13, 2017 2:37 am

follow a qualified guru who would:
1) teach special and specific views of his specific school
2) teach you how to relate these view to actual practice
3)how to integrate the teaching into daily life.

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Re: Which lineage to choose?

Post by KeithA » Mon Nov 13, 2017 3:03 am

Meido wrote:
Sun Nov 12, 2017 4:54 pm
heart wrote:
Sun Nov 12, 2017 3:16 pm
Don't follow a lineage, follow a Guru.
Excuse me for chiming in here, but to my mind this is essential advice that applies across traditions.

I wouldn't be disappointed if these words were added to the top of the site page.

~ Meido
:offtopic:

Really? That's interesting. I would love to see you drag this topic over to the Zen forum for discussion.

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