Short Dudjom v Longchen Nyingthik ngondro

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csmorg96
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Short Dudjom v Longchen Nyingthik ngondro

Post by csmorg96 » Sun Nov 26, 2017 6:03 am

Are there any major differences between the short dudjom tersar ngondro and outer longchen nyingthik ngondro?

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Re: Short Dudjom v Longchen Nyingthik ngondro

Post by dzogchungpa » Sun Nov 26, 2017 7:06 am

Well, the refuge verse in the LNN is much more interesting.
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Re: Short Dudjom v Longchen Nyingthik ngondro

Post by Miroku » Sun Nov 26, 2017 9:37 am

Well, longchen nyingthig has way way way longer sadhana, or at least the one I saw was way longer than the sadhana of short Dudjom ngöndro I saw.
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Re: Short Dudjom v Longchen Nyingthik ngondro

Post by Sonam Wangchug » Sun Nov 26, 2017 3:02 pm

csmorg96 wrote:
Sun Nov 26, 2017 6:03 am
Are there any major differences between the short dudjom tersar ngondro and outer longchen nyingthik ngondro?
The Longchen Nyingthik Ngondro is lengthier and more detailed.

The Short dudjom tersar is condensed, and is very brief. However it contains all of the same meaning and blessing.

If you would like something more comparable in terms of detail, The Long Tersar ngondro is quite beautiful as well. The long tersar ngondro is what HH Dudjom rinpoche's ngondro commentary Torch lighting the way to freedom is based on.

There are some good commentaries on the nyingthik Ngondro by HH Dilgo khyentse rinpoche and Dzongsar jamyang khyentse rinpoche. Also, Words of my perfect teacher by Dza patrul rinpoche is a classic.

Several Tersar teachers have also given teachings on the Short Tersar ngondro which you can find if you are looking to practice this Ngondro.

I would say it comes down to your own personal preference, see what you connect with, and in some cases your teacher will recommend which version is better for you.

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Re: Short Dudjom v Longchen Nyingthik ngondro

Post by pemachophel » Mon Nov 27, 2017 8:16 pm

Ask your Teacher.
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