Four Dharma Seals

[Caoimhghín]

Neither did I until I looked it up in the bKa' 'gyur and bstan 'gyur last night. There are all kinds of received ideas we do not question.

The Digital Dictionary of Buddhism lists 三印 ("the three seals") as a translation of tridṛṣṭinamittamudrā specifically in the case of T 262.9.15b7 (妙法蓮華經, Ven Kumārajīva translation). Very interesting.

Sounds like a reconstruction to me.

Most certainly could be. I am out of my depth in most of the things I am interested in. Nonetheless, I found it interesting.

[Malcolm]

The Digital Dictionary of Buddhism lists 三印 ("the three seals") as a translation of tridṛṣṭinamittamudrā specifically in the case of T 262.9.15b7 (妙法蓮華經, Ven Kumārajīva translation). Very interesting.

Sounds like a reconstruction to me.

Most certainly could be. I am out of my depth in most of the things I am interested in. Nonetheless, I found it interesting.

FYI, it would be helpful to include a Sanskrit title, like Saddharmapundarika-- assuming I am correct, this phrase is missing from the Tibetan text.

M

[Caoimhghín]

Sounds like a reconstruction to me.

Most certainly could be. I am out of my depth in most of the things I am interested in. Nonetheless, I found it interesting.

FYI, it would be helpful to include a Sanskrit title, like Saddharmapundarika-- assuming I am correct, this phrase is missing from the Tibetan text.

M

Apologies, I figured the Taishō number was the most straightforward way.

[Malcolm]

Most certainly could be. I am out of my depth in most of the things I am interested in. Nonetheless, I found it interesting.

FYI, it would be helpful to include a Sanskrit title, like Saddharmapundarika-- assuming I am correct, this phrase is missing from the Tibetan text.

M

Apologies, I figured the Taishō number was the most straightforward way.

No worries, but it is an unattested reasding, i.e., pretty basless, Can you tell me exactly what chapter this comes from?

M

[SunWuKong]

No no no
Annica/Anitya
anatta/Anatman
dukkha/duhkha
Nibbana/nirvana

Emotion has nothing to do with it. All phenomena ultimately fail. Only in seeing beyond the phenomena can you see beyond its failure.

I am unclear what point you are making..Who or what is this addressed to?

Weitschist

[weitsicht]

No no no
Annica/Anitya
anatta/Anatman
dukkha/duhkha
Nibbana/nirvana

Emotion has nothing to do with it. All phenomena ultimately fail. Only in seeing beyond the phenomena can you see beyond its failure.

What do you mean by "it"?

I don't quite see (1) and (2) reflected in your list or do you refer to a different list?
If so, why five?

I have a particular problem with the statement that "All phenomena ultimately fail."
How about
- space
- matter
- paradoxy
?

[weitsicht]

Sorry to bore those deeper acquainted to the dharma, my question is seriously posted:

What is it that is uncompoud?

I remember from a teaching, but cannot cite and may be wrong, there are three only:
(1) Nirvana
(2) Entrance into nirvana and
(3) mind

Could you please confirm or correct?

If so, why for example paradoxy is compound?

Thanks

[SunWuKong]

We are tainted by a false doctrine of cosmic consciousness and cosmic evolution, neither of which are supported by Buddhist teaching. Things are what they are. None of that is going to help us. All we can cling to is Emptiness

[Simon E.]

Aye.

Although I wouldn't use the word cling..but I know what you mean.

[Malcolm]

We are tainted by a false doctrine of cosmic consciousness and cosmic evolution...

We are?

[Simon E.]

Some are Malcolm. Even this forum is not free from perennialist/universalists who think that all paths lead to the same goal and that it just takes time.

[weitsicht]

We are tainted by a false doctrine of cosmic consciousness and cosmic evolution, neither of which are supported by Buddhist teaching. Things are what they are. None of that is going to help us. All we can cling to is Emptiness

At least I am not alone in here.
Tainted Love

Are you a nihilist, SunWuKong?

[Malcolm]

Some are Malcolm. Even this forum is not free from perennialist/universalists who think that all paths lead to the same goal and that it just takes time.

The he should have said "some of us."

[Grigoris]

All we can cling to is Emptiness

Good luck with that one!

[SunWuKong]

We are tainted by a false doctrine of cosmic consciousness and cosmic evolution, neither of which are supported by Buddhist teaching. Things are what they are. None of that is going to help us. All we can cling to is Emptiness

At least I am not alone in here.
Tainted Love

Are you a nihilist, SunWuKong?

Nope. I’m simply a minimalist who believes the Dharma is made for everyone. So back to Cosmic Consciousness, Cosmic Evolution, Rational Secular Buddhism, all ideas cooked up in the West and exported to the East under the guise of “westerners will believe if you tell them this” it’s solid history I can back this up. My favorite strategy here is pointing out that Darwin never suggested evolution, he suggested natural selection, and our view of earth history is being confirmed as based on catastrophe. Not evolution. Even today people operate under the idea that planting eastern practices in the West is going to usher in some kind of Age of Enlightenment, why then wasn’t this occurring in The east when thd percentages of Buddhism was much higher? Because it’s a racial historical revision.

[Malcolm]

We are tainted by a false doctrine of cosmic consciousness and cosmic evolution, neither of which are supported by Buddhist teaching. Things are what they are. None of that is going to help us. All we can cling to is Emptiness

At least I am not alone in here.
Tainted Love

Are you a nihilist, SunWuKong?

My favorite strategy here is pointing out that Darwin never suggested evolution, he suggested natural selection, and our view of earth history is being confirmed as based on catastrophe. Not evolution.

The very last word in Origin of the Species is...wait for it..."evolved."

"From so simple a beginning endless forms most beautiful and most wonderful have been, and are being, evolved."
-- Origin of the Species, Darwin

[SunWuKong]

Okay I lost that one. I’m

[Malcolm]

Okay I lost that one. I’m

Not, really, Darwin did resist use of the term precisely because it implied "improvement," rather than simple adaptation.

And, as we know, the term has been used by racists, and so on, to imply some human beings are inferior to others.

[SunWuKong]

I have a particular problem with the statement that "All phenomena ultimately fail."
How about
- space
- matter
- paradoxy
?

Phenomena can't liberate. They can only lead so far, after that it's necessary leaping into what's still unknown

But I'm way off topic and out of my sandbox. Sorry for being dorky.

[DGA]

Okay I lost that one. I’m

Not, really, Darwin did resist use of the term precisely because it implied "improvement," rather than simple adaptation.

And, as we know, the term has been used by racists, and so on, to imply some human beings are inferior to others.

when evolution in this sense (not Darwin's sense) is taken up by "spirituality" writers, the racism usually comes along for the ride. Case in point: Aurobindo and his followers

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sri_Aurobindo