Dharani of Glorious Vajra claws / Dorje Dermo

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Re: Dharani of Glorious Vajra claws / Dorje Dermo

Post by PeterC » Tue Jan 30, 2018 5:52 pm

MatthewAngby wrote:
Tue Jan 30, 2018 4:09 pm
Malcolm wrote:
Tue Jan 30, 2018 3:43 pm
PeterC wrote:
Tue Jan 30, 2018 2:25 pm
I don’t think we can advise someone to defer studying the dharma when they have genuine interest without endangering our own vows.

However that doesn’t mean that we should advise them to begin immediately with the vajrayana. There are excellent reasons to delay that until the student has met and developed confidence in a qualified guru etc etc and also has the personal maturity to practice strictly according to the guru’s instructions.

Most teenagers would be best served by shamatha and sutras first, blood-drinking four-headed herukas later. Though I can see the futility of trying to persuade them of that.
Ngondro was developed for teens.
Well yeah, I kinda agree with Malcom. Some people have different interests like me, I am perfectly fine with doing ngondro first- but mind me on the next part , I do not wish to speak bad of the dharma. But sutra for me will be very difficult to do , because I have a phobia of reading books
Don’t worry, they don’t bite.

and let me tell you , before I tried TB, I was in Chinese Mahayana tradition. I read sutras and stuff , but that wasn’t for me , because I got very frustrated many times for some reason. So I would say that you see, ngondro would be the best option for me, also four thoughts and lojong. This seems to be pretty good for me.
That’s great - we’ll see you again after you’ve finished the prostrations?

What I’m saying is , I think we don’t need sutras first ( correct me if I am wrong ), though that is one of the ways I think. There are plenty of ways for me to get started , which many have already introduced to me

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Re: Dharani of Glorious Vajra claws / Dorje Dermo

Post by azamorguedes » Thu Apr 26, 2018 3:46 pm

My dear Mattew,

I've been through that.
For some time I had the impression of being attacked by spirits.
They invaded my vision.
But do not be afraid.
You should practice until it passes.
For me it happened.
You should look for qualified teachers.
Pray to the Buddha. Ask him to direct your thoughts.
You should do preliminary practices (ngondro). You should avoid tantric practices for now.
Pray to the Buddha also to lose his aversion to reading. It is possible to achieve illumination as illiterate, but reading books can help along the way.

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Re: Dharani of Glorious Vajra claws / Dorje Dermo

Post by amanitamusc » Thu Apr 26, 2018 11:22 pm

Well welcome to Dharma Wheel azamorguedes.

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