Kyabje Dorje Chang Kalu Rinpoche on Nature of Mind

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Kyabje Dorje Chang Kalu Rinpoche on Nature of Mind

Post by conebeckham » Fri Jul 22, 2016 4:43 pm

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དམ་པའི་དོན་ནི་ཤེས་རབ་ཆེ་བ་དང་།
རྟོག་གེའི་ཡུལ་མིན་བླ་མའི་བྱིན་རླབས་དང་།
སྐལ་ལྡན་ལས་འཕྲོ་ཅན་གྱིས་རྟོགས་པ་སྟེ།
དེ་ནི་ཤེས་རབ་ལ་ནི་ལོ་རྟོག་སེལ།།


"Absolute Truth is not an object of analytical discourse or great discriminating wisdom,
It is realized through the blessing grace of the Guru and fortunate Karmic potential.
Like this, mistaken ideas of discriminating wisdom are clarified."
- (Kyabje Bokar Rinpoche, from his summary of "The Ocean of Definitive Meaning")

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Re: Kyabje Dorje Chang Kalu Rinpoche on Nature of Mind

Post by MalaBeads » Fri Jul 22, 2016 5:59 pm

Thanks for posting this, cone. I tried to watch it but it didnt have any sound. I dont know why. Nonetheless, it was nice to see Kalu Rinpoche again. Thanks.
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Re: Kyabje Dorje Chang Kalu Rinpoche on Nature of Mind

Post by conebeckham » Fri Jul 22, 2016 6:28 pm

Hmmm....sound works fine for me!
Anyone else having issues?
དམ་པའི་དོན་ནི་ཤེས་རབ་ཆེ་བ་དང་།
རྟོག་གེའི་ཡུལ་མིན་བླ་མའི་བྱིན་རླབས་དང་།
སྐལ་ལྡན་ལས་འཕྲོ་ཅན་གྱིས་རྟོགས་པ་སྟེ།
དེ་ནི་ཤེས་རབ་ལ་ནི་ལོ་རྟོག་སེལ།།


"Absolute Truth is not an object of analytical discourse or great discriminating wisdom,
It is realized through the blessing grace of the Guru and fortunate Karmic potential.
Like this, mistaken ideas of discriminating wisdom are clarified."
- (Kyabje Bokar Rinpoche, from his summary of "The Ocean of Definitive Meaning")

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Re: Kyabje Dorje Chang Kalu Rinpoche on Nature of Mind

Post by Thomas Amundsen » Fri Jul 22, 2016 6:31 pm

conebeckham wrote:Hmmm....sound works fine for me!
Anyone else having issues?
Sound is working fine on my end... Thanks for sharing, Cone!

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Post by MalaBeads » Fri Jul 22, 2016 9:10 pm

conebeckham wrote:Hmmm....sound works fine for me!
Anyone else having issues?
Thanks again cone. After I read your comment, i tried again and this time the sound worked. I dont know why but am nonetheless grateful.

Btw, I saw two people that i know there. Of course Lama Chime was there (for anyone who has never seen Lama Chime, he was seated in a chair on Kalu Rinpoche's right in a suit (he must have come straight from work is all i can think) but he was only there for the first 25 minutes. I also saw a student of Lama Chime's there (who coincidentally moved to the Bay Area a few years later for his job).

Thank you again for posting this.
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Re: Kyabje Dorje Chang Kalu Rinpoche on Nature of Mind

Post by maybay » Sat Jul 23, 2016 2:09 pm

His presentation of Christianity was painfully simple. Too much for some it seems.
People will know nothing and everything
Remember nothing and everything
Think nothing and everything
Do nothing and everything
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Post by smcj » Sat Jul 23, 2016 3:07 pm

If he couldn't find an enlightened Christian his interest would be close to nil.
I support Mingyur R and HHDL in their positions against Lama abuse.

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Post by conebeckham » Sun Jul 24, 2016 7:51 pm

Keep in mind that back in the early days of the Dharma transmission to the West (And I count the 1970's as early days...) Tibetan Lamas had no real undertsanding of Christianity at all, for the most part. A few exceptions.
དམ་པའི་དོན་ནི་ཤེས་རབ་ཆེ་བ་དང་།
རྟོག་གེའི་ཡུལ་མིན་བླ་མའི་བྱིན་རླབས་དང་།
སྐལ་ལྡན་ལས་འཕྲོ་ཅན་གྱིས་རྟོགས་པ་སྟེ།
དེ་ནི་ཤེས་རབ་ལ་ནི་ལོ་རྟོག་སེལ།།


"Absolute Truth is not an object of analytical discourse or great discriminating wisdom,
It is realized through the blessing grace of the Guru and fortunate Karmic potential.
Like this, mistaken ideas of discriminating wisdom are clarified."
- (Kyabje Bokar Rinpoche, from his summary of "The Ocean of Definitive Meaning")

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Re: Kyabje Dorje Chang Kalu Rinpoche on Nature of Mind

Post by smcj » Sun Jul 24, 2016 9:50 pm

Well, Rinpoche was interested enough to go meet the Pope.
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I can easily imagine him thinking, "If the top guy isn't enlightened, how much value can there be to it?"

But that's just an educated guess based on how Tibetans generally think. Over the years I've learned I'm not able to second guess high lamas, so take that with many grains of salt.
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Post by Simon E. » Mon Jul 25, 2016 1:32 pm

I was there Cone... :smile:
Nice shot of Shenpen Hookham at about 2.14 38.
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Post by Simon E. » Mon Jul 25, 2016 1:57 pm

A couple of memories. one trivial one not.
We were sitting in the upper tier of the lecture theatre, and although it was November it was stiflingly hot up there. About three rows in front of us there was a bloke wearing an astrakhan hat which was about two feet tall.. :roll: Our view of the proceedings was unaffected because our row was higher than his, but the people sitting behind him must have been peering round this tower of fur..A bit like Marge Simpsons hairdo.
A few moments after the video ends Rinpoche got to his feet assisted by people each side of him and said that he was pretty sure this would be his last trip to Europe because he was going to die soon.
He then waved goodbye to everyone in the room..it was a lump in the throat moment.

(In fact he died about 17 months later)
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Post by conebeckham » Mon Jul 25, 2016 6:30 pm

Thanks for sharing the story, Simon. You are a lucky guy. I only saw Rinpoche from afar, once, in the mid 80's in New York. It would take a few years, and a 3,000 mile journey, before I really cemented my connection to his lineage.
དམ་པའི་དོན་ནི་ཤེས་རབ་ཆེ་བ་དང་།
རྟོག་གེའི་ཡུལ་མིན་བླ་མའི་བྱིན་རླབས་དང་།
སྐལ་ལྡན་ལས་འཕྲོ་ཅན་གྱིས་རྟོགས་པ་སྟེ།
དེ་ནི་ཤེས་རབ་ལ་ནི་ལོ་རྟོག་སེལ།།


"Absolute Truth is not an object of analytical discourse or great discriminating wisdom,
It is realized through the blessing grace of the Guru and fortunate Karmic potential.
Like this, mistaken ideas of discriminating wisdom are clarified."
- (Kyabje Bokar Rinpoche, from his summary of "The Ocean of Definitive Meaning")

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Post by Simon E. » Mon Jul 25, 2016 7:49 pm

It was a smaller scene in the UK back then Cone..A few weeks before I had attended teachings by a very young Ponlop Rinpoche.(Dzogchen Ponlop Rinpoche) he wasn't very confident about his English back then so Shenpen was his translator. I might have the chronology arse about face...
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Re: Kyabje Dorje Chang Kalu Rinpoche on Nature of Mind

Post by heart » Tue Jul 26, 2016 7:43 pm

It is a very young Peter Roberts that translate, right?

/magnus
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Post by Simon E. » Tue Jul 26, 2016 8:29 pm

It is Magnus...He was always the go-to guy.. :smile:
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Post by heart » Tue Jul 26, 2016 8:53 pm

Simon E. wrote:It is Magnus...He was always the go-to guy.. :smile:
Right, I see he is in Hollywood now, strange travels,

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Post by Simon E. » Tue Jul 26, 2016 8:59 pm

Indeed.. :smile:
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Post by MalaBeads » Wed Jul 27, 2016 1:12 pm

conebeckham wrote:I only saw Rinpoche from afar, once,
Me too, i only saw him one time, in berkeley i think it was, and i burst into tears when he appeared. In retrospect, i think it was because there was so much devotion in the room that i could feel it. Hard to say really why tho....
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Re: Kyabje Dorje Chang Kalu Rinpoche on Nature of Mind

Post by Simon E. » Wed Jul 27, 2016 1:41 pm

As you can probably imagine, when he waved goodbye to all of us there was not a dry eye in the house.. :heart:
Gone fishin' :smile:

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