Karmapa Thaye Dorje expecting child

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Karmapa Thaye Dorje expecting child

Post by Kelwin » Fri Mar 09, 2018 11:01 am

https://www.karmapa.org/karmapa-sangyum ... ews-share/

March 9, 2018

Thaye Dorje, His Holiness the 17th Gyalwa Karmapa, and his beloved wife Sangyumla, are delighted to share the joyous news that they are expecting their first child.

As with the announcement of Karmapa’s marriage last year, Karmapa hopes that this news will greatly benefit the Karma Kagyu lineage and the Kagyu school of Tibetan Buddhism.

Both Sangyumla and the baby are in good health. The due date is during the first week of September.

The 15th Karmapa, Khakyab Dorje, was also a father, and had three sons, two of whom he recognised as reincarnate masters – the second Jamgon Kongtrul and the twelfth Shamarpa, Tugsey Jamyang.

Karmapa says,
My heart is filled with joy. Sangyumla and I have a precious opportunity and responsibility to be parents, and follow the great examples of our own mothers and fathers.
We also wish to express our heartfelt appreciation for all of you. We have received thousands of messages of support since our marriage announcement last year.

Sangyumla tells me that she feels blessed and welcomed into our global family, and I have every confidence that you will offer the same loving kindness for our baby.

My role as Karmapa continues as ever, and is somehow now imbued with even more purpose, more responsibility and more compassion. I have a strong feeling that this baby will be a special addition to our Karma Kagyu family.

As the third Karmapa to marry, and the second to become a father, I trust that all of my decisions may benefit our precious lineage, and all sentient beings, now and for generations to come.
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Re: Karmapa Thaye Dorje expecting child

Post by Simon E. » Fri Mar 09, 2018 11:13 am

Congratulations to H.H. and to Sangyumla. :namaste:
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Re: Karmapa Thaye Dorje expecting child

Post by Miroku » Fri Mar 09, 2018 12:48 pm

Congratulations!
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Re: Karmapa Thaye Dorje expecting child

Post by Knotty Veneer » Sat Mar 10, 2018 12:23 am

Shamarpa's back then. If it's a boy of course.
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Re: Karmapa Thaye Dorje expecting child

Post by Tenma » Sat Mar 10, 2018 10:22 pm

Knotty Veneer wrote:
Sat Mar 10, 2018 12:23 am
Shamarpa's back then. If it's a boy of course.
Why not a girl?

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Re: Karmapa Thaye Dorje expecting child

Post by Knotty Veneer » Sun Mar 11, 2018 11:24 am

In one regard, you are right. Why not?

Doubt that there will a publicly recognised Shamar Tulku who is female, though. TD will struggle enough to have any Shamarpa he recognizes accepted outside his group without making a non-traditional choice of a girl.
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Re: Karmapa Thaye Dorje expecting child

Post by Lingpupa » Wed Mar 14, 2018 10:37 am

And so turns the wheel. Quasi-royalty expects an heir. :shrug:
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Re: Karmapa Thaye Dorje expecting child

Post by conebeckham » Wed Mar 14, 2018 4:54 pm

Knotty Veneer wrote:
Sun Mar 11, 2018 11:24 am
In one regard, you are right. Why not?

Doubt that there will a publicly recognised Shamar Tulku who is female, though. TD will struggle enough to have any Shamarpa he recognizes accepted outside his group without making a non-traditional choice of a girl.
What would be really interesting is if the child is female, and is not recognized as any Tulku.
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It is realized through the blessing grace of the Guru and fortunate Karmic potential.
Like this, mistaken ideas of discriminating wisdom are clarified."
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Re: Karmapa Thaye Dorje expecting child

Post by Simon E. » Wed Mar 14, 2018 4:58 pm

And then grows up to be a well regarded teacher..without the whole 'tulku' three-ring circus that Tibetan Vajrayana has hobbled itself by.
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Re: Karmapa Thaye Dorje expecting child

Post by conebeckham » Wed Mar 14, 2018 5:00 pm

Simon E. wrote:
Wed Mar 14, 2018 4:58 pm
And then grows up to be a well regarded teacher..without the whole 'tulku' three-ring circus that Tibetan Vajrayana has hobbled itself by.
I am all for that! :smile:
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རྟོག་གེའི་ཡུལ་མིན་བླ་མའི་བྱིན་རླབས་དང་།
སྐལ་ལྡན་ལས་འཕྲོ་ཅན་གྱིས་རྟོགས་པ་སྟེ།
དེ་ནི་ཤེས་རབ་ལ་ནི་ལོ་རྟོག་སེལ།།


"Absolute Truth is not an object of analytical discourse or great discriminating wisdom,
It is realized through the blessing grace of the Guru and fortunate Karmic potential.
Like this, mistaken ideas of discriminating wisdom are clarified."
- (Kyabje Bokar Rinpoche, from his summary of "The Ocean of Definitive Meaning")

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Re: Karmapa Thaye Dorje expecting child

Post by Simon E. » Wed Mar 14, 2018 5:17 pm

:smile:
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Re: Karmapa Thaye Dorje expecting child

Post by SuryaMitra » Mon Apr 16, 2018 1:14 am

It is very likely that it will be some tulku...But then, who knows, maybe not. In any case His Holiness said that his marriage will bring lots of benefits to sentient beings, so I am sure it will :smile:

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