Oh, thanks. Hm, kidna strange since the empowerment was from Chogyur Lingpa ... but why not I guess.heart wrote: ↑Mon Nov 12, 2018 6:42 pmActually they are using this sadhana: “Great Treasure Revealer Ratna Lingpa’s Unsurpassed, Innermost Secret Sādhana of Kīla,”Miroku wrote: ↑Mon Nov 12, 2018 6:26 pmOh, thank you, Plzang!!Palzang Jangchub wrote: ↑Mon Nov 12, 2018 2:00 pm
The sadhana we tend to use in Drikung also draws heavily upon Sangye Lingpa's Dorje Phurba for the most essentialized daily practice. When I can find it I'll post the exact names and lineage detailed at the beginning of sadhana itself. I'm sure there are copies online for purchase of nothing else.
You can get it here: http://www.gartrust.org/vajrakila.html#
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“Observing samaya involves to remain inseparable from the union of wisdom and compassion at all times, to sustain mindfulness, and to put into practice the guru’s instructions”. Garchen Rinpoche
For those who do virtuous actions,
goodness is what comes to pass.
For those who do non-virtuous actions,
that becomes suffering indeed.
- Arya Sanghata Sutra
For those who do virtuous actions,
goodness is what comes to pass.
For those who do non-virtuous actions,
that becomes suffering indeed.
- Arya Sanghata Sutra
Re: Live Stream Vajrakilaya Teachings, Empowerment and Drubchen 11/10 - 11/18
Well, since you got the Sangtik Phurbha you can do that sadhana which is available for free on the internet.There is a great book on the Sangtik called "Powerful Transformations", highly recommended. If you prefer you can do the Ratna Lingpa sadhana which contains a lot of interesting details.Miroku wrote: ↑Mon Nov 12, 2018 7:30 pmOh, thanks. Hm, kidna strange since the empowerment was from Chogyur Lingpa ... but why not I guess.heart wrote: ↑Mon Nov 12, 2018 6:42 pmActually they are using this sadhana: “Great Treasure Revealer Ratna Lingpa’s Unsurpassed, Innermost Secret Sādhana of Kīla,”
You can get it here: http://www.gartrust.org/vajrakila.html#
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"We are all here to help each other go through this thing, whatever it is."
~Kurt Vonnegut
"The principal practice is Guruyoga. But we need to understand that any secondary practice combined with Guruyoga becomes a principal practice." ChNNR (Teachings on Thun and Ganapuja)
~Kurt Vonnegut
"The principal practice is Guruyoga. But we need to understand that any secondary practice combined with Guruyoga becomes a principal practice." ChNNR (Teachings on Thun and Ganapuja)
Re: Live Stream Vajrakilaya Teachings, Empowerment and Drubchen 11/10 - 11/18
Is this the sadhana called the 'Essence of the Play of Concerned Activity' ?heart wrote: ↑Mon Nov 12, 2018 6:42 pm
Actually they are using this sadhana: “Great Treasure Revealer Ratna Lingpa’s Unsurpassed, Innermost Secret Sādhana of Kīla,”
You can get it here: http://www.gartrust.org/vajrakila.html#
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Well, since you got the Sangtik Phurbha you can do that sadhana which is available for free on the internet.There is a great book on the Sangtik called "Powerful Transformations", highly recommended. If you prefer you can do the Ratna Lingpa sadhana which contains a lot of interesting details.
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Om Thathpurushaya Vidhmahe
Suvarna Pakshaya Dheemahe
Thanno Garuda Prachodayath
Micchāmi Dukkaḍaṃ (मिच्छामि दुक्कडम्)
Om Thathpurushaya Vidhmahe
Suvarna Pakshaya Dheemahe
Thanno Garuda Prachodayath
Micchāmi Dukkaḍaṃ (मिच्छामि दुक्कडम्)
Re: Live Stream Vajrakilaya Teachings, Empowerment and Drubchen 11/10 - 11/18
No,Mantrik wrote: ↑Mon Nov 12, 2018 8:56 pmIs this the sadhana called the 'Essence of the Play of Concerned Activity' ?heart wrote: ↑Mon Nov 12, 2018 6:42 pm
Actually they are using this sadhana: “Great Treasure Revealer Ratna Lingpa’s Unsurpassed, Innermost Secret Sādhana of Kīla,”
You can get it here: http://www.gartrust.org/vajrakila.html#
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Well, since you got the Sangtik Phurbha you can do that sadhana which is available for free on the internet.There is a great book on the Sangtik called "Powerful Transformations", highly recommended. If you prefer you can do the Ratna Lingpa sadhana which contains a lot of interesting details.
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Sangtik Phurba https://lhaseylotsawa.org/texts/sangtik-purba-sādhana
Ratna Lingpa http://www.gartrust.org/vajrakila.html#
There is a slightly bigger version of the Sangtik Phurba but it isn't available online.
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"We are all here to help each other go through this thing, whatever it is."
~Kurt Vonnegut
"The principal practice is Guruyoga. But we need to understand that any secondary practice combined with Guruyoga becomes a principal practice." ChNNR (Teachings on Thun and Ganapuja)
~Kurt Vonnegut
"The principal practice is Guruyoga. But we need to understand that any secondary practice combined with Guruyoga becomes a principal practice." ChNNR (Teachings on Thun and Ganapuja)
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Re: Live Stream Vajrakilaya Teachings, Empowerment and Drubchen 11/10 - 11/18
Oh, thanks for the info! Could be fun to practice it, but I guess this would be better to practice under a teachers guidance for some time at least.heart wrote: ↑Mon Nov 12, 2018 8:27 pmWell, since you got the Sangtik Phurbha you can do that sadhana which is available for free on the internet.There is a great book on the Sangtik called "Powerful Transformations", highly recommended. If you prefer you can do the Ratna Lingpa sadhana which contains a lot of interesting details.Miroku wrote: ↑Mon Nov 12, 2018 7:30 pmOh, thanks. Hm, kidna strange since the empowerment was from Chogyur Lingpa ... but why not I guess.heart wrote: ↑Mon Nov 12, 2018 6:42 pm
Actually they are using this sadhana: “Great Treasure Revealer Ratna Lingpa’s Unsurpassed, Innermost Secret Sādhana of Kīla,”
You can get it here: http://www.gartrust.org/vajrakila.html#
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“Observing samaya involves to remain inseparable from the union of wisdom and compassion at all times, to sustain mindfulness, and to put into practice the guru’s instructions”. Garchen Rinpoche
For those who do virtuous actions,
goodness is what comes to pass.
For those who do non-virtuous actions,
that becomes suffering indeed.
- Arya Sanghata Sutra
For those who do virtuous actions,
goodness is what comes to pass.
For those who do non-virtuous actions,
that becomes suffering indeed.
- Arya Sanghata Sutra
Re: Live Stream Vajrakilaya Teachings, Empowerment and Drubchen 11/10 - 11/18
That's odd. The one I have from a Garchen Rinpoche empowerment some years ago is Ratna Lingpa's:heart wrote: ↑Mon Nov 12, 2018 9:18 pmNo,Mantrik wrote: ↑Mon Nov 12, 2018 8:56 pmIs this the sadhana called the 'Essence of the Play of Concerned Activity' ?heart wrote: ↑Mon Nov 12, 2018 6:42 pm
Actually they are using this sadhana: “Great Treasure Revealer Ratna Lingpa’s Unsurpassed, Innermost Secret Sādhana of Kīla,”
You can get it here: http://www.gartrust.org/vajrakila.html#
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Well, since you got the Sangtik Phurbha you can do that sadhana which is available for free on the internet.There is a great book on the Sangtik called "Powerful Transformations", highly recommended. If you prefer you can do the Ratna Lingpa sadhana which contains a lot of interesting details.
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Sangtik Phurba https://lhaseylotsawa.org/texts/sangtik-purba-sādhana
Ratna Lingpa http://www.gartrust.org/vajrakila.html#
There is a slightly bigger version of the Sangtik Phurba but it isn't available online.
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The Daily Practice of the Secret Attainment of the Unsurpassed Extremely Secret Vajrakilaya called 'The Essence of the Play of Concerned Activity'.
http://www.khyung.com ཁྲོཾ
Om Thathpurushaya Vidhmahe
Suvarna Pakshaya Dheemahe
Thanno Garuda Prachodayath
Micchāmi Dukkaḍaṃ (मिच्छामि दुक्कडम्)
Om Thathpurushaya Vidhmahe
Suvarna Pakshaya Dheemahe
Thanno Garuda Prachodayath
Micchāmi Dukkaḍaṃ (मिच्छामि दुक्कडम्)
Re: Live Stream Vajrakilaya Teachings, Empowerment and Drubchen 11/10 - 11/18
The daily practice in the ebook is called; “Essence of Manifold Activity Displays: A Manual for the Regular Practice of the Unsurpassed, Innermost Secret Sādhana of Vajrakīla”Mantrik wrote: ↑Mon Nov 12, 2018 9:37 pmThat's odd. The one I have from a Garchen Rinpoche empowerment some years ago is Ratna Lingpa's:heart wrote: ↑Mon Nov 12, 2018 9:18 pmNo,
Sangtik Phurba https://lhaseylotsawa.org/texts/sangtik-purba-sādhana
Ratna Lingpa http://www.gartrust.org/vajrakila.html#
There is a slightly bigger version of the Sangtik Phurba but it isn't available online.
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The Daily Practice of the Secret Attainment of the Unsurpassed Extremely Secret Vajrakilaya called 'The Essence of the Play of Concerned Activity'.
There could be several daily practices.
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"We are all here to help each other go through this thing, whatever it is."
~Kurt Vonnegut
"The principal practice is Guruyoga. But we need to understand that any secondary practice combined with Guruyoga becomes a principal practice." ChNNR (Teachings on Thun and Ganapuja)
~Kurt Vonnegut
"The principal practice is Guruyoga. But we need to understand that any secondary practice combined with Guruyoga becomes a principal practice." ChNNR (Teachings on Thun and Ganapuja)
Re: Live Stream Vajrakilaya Teachings, Empowerment and Drubchen 11/10 - 11/18
Someone would need at least to lead you through the Sangtik sadhana unless you are very used to doing sadhanas, but there are real instructions how to practice is in the book "Powerful transformations".Miroku wrote: ↑Mon Nov 12, 2018 9:33 pmOh, thanks for the info! Could be fun to practice it, but I guess this would be better to practice under a teachers guidance for some time at least.heart wrote: ↑Mon Nov 12, 2018 8:27 pmWell, since you got the Sangtik Phurbha you can do that sadhana which is available for free on the internet.There is a great book on the Sangtik called "Powerful Transformations", highly recommended. If you prefer you can do the Ratna Lingpa sadhana which contains a lot of interesting details.
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"We are all here to help each other go through this thing, whatever it is."
~Kurt Vonnegut
"The principal practice is Guruyoga. But we need to understand that any secondary practice combined with Guruyoga becomes a principal practice." ChNNR (Teachings on Thun and Ganapuja)
~Kurt Vonnegut
"The principal practice is Guruyoga. But we need to understand that any secondary practice combined with Guruyoga becomes a principal practice." ChNNR (Teachings on Thun and Ganapuja)
Re: Live Stream Vajrakilaya Teachings, Empowerment and Drubchen 11/10 - 11/18
Thanks.heart wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 5:45 amThe daily practice in the ebook is called; “Essence of Manifold Activity Displays: A Manual for the Regular Practice of the Unsurpassed, Innermost Secret Sādhana of Vajrakīla”Mantrik wrote: ↑Mon Nov 12, 2018 9:37 pmThat's odd. The one I have from a Garchen Rinpoche empowerment some years ago is Ratna Lingpa's:heart wrote: ↑Mon Nov 12, 2018 9:18 pm
No,
Sangtik Phurba https://lhaseylotsawa.org/texts/sangtik-purba-sādhana
Ratna Lingpa http://www.gartrust.org/vajrakila.html#
There is a slightly bigger version of the Sangtik Phurba but it isn't available online.
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The Daily Practice of the Secret Attainment of the Unsurpassed Extremely Secret Vajrakilaya called 'The Essence of the Play of Concerned Activity'.
There could be several daily practices.
/magnus
http://www.khyung.com ཁྲོཾ
Om Thathpurushaya Vidhmahe
Suvarna Pakshaya Dheemahe
Thanno Garuda Prachodayath
Micchāmi Dukkaḍaṃ (मिच्छामि दुक्कडम्)
Om Thathpurushaya Vidhmahe
Suvarna Pakshaya Dheemahe
Thanno Garuda Prachodayath
Micchāmi Dukkaḍaṃ (मिच्छामि दुक्कडम्)
Re: Live Stream Vajrakilaya Teachings, Empowerment and Drubchen 11/10 - 11/18
Who are the human figures that Vajrakilaya is standing on in the thangka?
Re: Live Stream Vajrakilaya Teachings, Empowerment and Drubchen 11/10 - 11/18
Shiva and his consort.
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"We are all here to help each other go through this thing, whatever it is."
~Kurt Vonnegut
"The principal practice is Guruyoga. But we need to understand that any secondary practice combined with Guruyoga becomes a principal practice." ChNNR (Teachings on Thun and Ganapuja)
~Kurt Vonnegut
"The principal practice is Guruyoga. But we need to understand that any secondary practice combined with Guruyoga becomes a principal practice." ChNNR (Teachings on Thun and Ganapuja)
Re: Live Stream Vajrakilaya Teachings, Empowerment and Drubchen 11/10 - 11/18
Either a bad thangka painter or an other tradition of Phurba that I don't know.
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"We are all here to help each other go through this thing, whatever it is."
~Kurt Vonnegut
"The principal practice is Guruyoga. But we need to understand that any secondary practice combined with Guruyoga becomes a principal practice." ChNNR (Teachings on Thun and Ganapuja)
~Kurt Vonnegut
"The principal practice is Guruyoga. But we need to understand that any secondary practice combined with Guruyoga becomes a principal practice." ChNNR (Teachings on Thun and Ganapuja)
Re: Live Stream Vajrakilaya Teachings, Empowerment and Drubchen 11/10 - 11/18
f.e.:
Sangthig Phurpa stands on 2 "demons"
Ratling Phurpa on 4.
Sangthig Phurpa stands on 2 "demons"
Ratling Phurpa on 4.
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Re: Live Stream Vajrakilaya Teachings, Empowerment and Drubchen 11/10 - 11/18
It isn't "demons", it is Mahadeva and Umadevi.
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"We are all here to help each other go through this thing, whatever it is."
~Kurt Vonnegut
"The principal practice is Guruyoga. But we need to understand that any secondary practice combined with Guruyoga becomes a principal practice." ChNNR (Teachings on Thun and Ganapuja)
~Kurt Vonnegut
"The principal practice is Guruyoga. But we need to understand that any secondary practice combined with Guruyoga becomes a principal practice." ChNNR (Teachings on Thun and Ganapuja)
Re: Live Stream Vajrakilaya Teachings, Empowerment and Drubchen 11/10 - 11/18
It's interesting, both Garchen R. and Drupon Rinchen Dorje Rinpoche emphasized in these teachings, that without the basis of love, compassion and bodhicitta, one can practice these sadhanas and accomplish the deity, but it's a worldly deity, a demon, not a Wisdom Being. They both used the word 'demon.'
Does that mean shiva = demon?
Does that mean shiva = demon?
Re: Live Stream Vajrakilaya Teachings, Empowerment and Drubchen 11/10 - 11/18
Mahadeva (Lha chenpo) and his consort also appear as worldly protectors to the Dharma and there are even sadhanas for them. I have no idea why it is like this perhaps someone like Malcolm can help out with that?Lhasa wrote: ↑Wed Nov 14, 2018 2:41 pm It's interesting, both Garchen R. and Drupon Rinchen Dorje Rinpoche emphasized in these teachings, that without the basis of love, compassion and bodhicitta, one can practice these sadhanas and accomplish the deity, but it's a worldly deity, a demon, not a Wisdom Being. They both used the word 'demon.'
Does that mean shiva = demon?
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"We are all here to help each other go through this thing, whatever it is."
~Kurt Vonnegut
"The principal practice is Guruyoga. But we need to understand that any secondary practice combined with Guruyoga becomes a principal practice." ChNNR (Teachings on Thun and Ganapuja)
~Kurt Vonnegut
"The principal practice is Guruyoga. But we need to understand that any secondary practice combined with Guruyoga becomes a principal practice." ChNNR (Teachings on Thun and Ganapuja)
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Do you have a recording of the teachings?Lhasa wrote: ↑Wed Nov 14, 2018 2:41 pm It's interesting, both Garchen R. and Drupon Rinchen Dorje Rinpoche emphasized in these teachings, that without the basis of love, compassion and bodhicitta, one can practice these sadhanas and accomplish the deity, but it's a worldly deity, a demon, not a Wisdom Being. They both used the word 'demon.'
Does that mean shiva = demon?
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It is on their FB page. Click on one of the previous links and you will find them somehow there.Empty Desire wrote: ↑Wed Nov 14, 2018 4:34 pmDo you have a recording of the teachings?Lhasa wrote: ↑Wed Nov 14, 2018 2:41 pm It's interesting, both Garchen R. and Drupon Rinchen Dorje Rinpoche emphasized in these teachings, that without the basis of love, compassion and bodhicitta, one can practice these sadhanas and accomplish the deity, but it's a worldly deity, a demon, not a Wisdom Being. They both used the word 'demon.'
Does that mean shiva = demon?
“Observing samaya involves to remain inseparable from the union of wisdom and compassion at all times, to sustain mindfulness, and to put into practice the guru’s instructions”. Garchen Rinpoche
For those who do virtuous actions,
goodness is what comes to pass.
For those who do non-virtuous actions,
that becomes suffering indeed.
- Arya Sanghata Sutra
For those who do virtuous actions,
goodness is what comes to pass.
For those who do non-virtuous actions,
that becomes suffering indeed.
- Arya Sanghata Sutra
Re: Live Stream Vajrakilaya Teachings, Empowerment and Drubchen 11/10 - 11/18
All of them are on the Garchen Buddhist Institute's youtube channel, there's a link in a post above.