Who are these Idols Of Kagyu Masters Of?

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Who are these Idols Of Kagyu Masters Of?

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This is from Kagyu Thekchen Ling Monastery Main Hall.... established by the Third Jamgon Kongtrul Rinpoche. in Lava, West Bengal, India, opened in June 1990. Its Shangpa Kagyu retreat centre, Ngedon Chagchen Ling, started in March 1991.

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From left to right:
Karma Pakshi
Nagarjuna
Sakyamuni Buddha
Atisha or Khyungpo Naljor
Not sure on the last one
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Varis wrote: Thu Oct 01, 2020 5:25 am From left to right:
Karma Pakshi
Nagarjuna
Sakyamuni Buddha
Atisha or Khyungpo Naljor
Not sure on the last one
Thank You Thank You/...... I recognized Nagarjuna, Atishha and Sakyamuni but got confused with which Karmapa it was.
(I am fairly new at this and out of self interest learning about Iconography of Kagyupa and Nyingmapa buddhism)

The last one I'm doubting could be Marpa in some statues he is depicted at his old age but not sure at all

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"Idols" is a pejorative word that Buddhists should probably avoid.
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tingdzin wrote: Wed Oct 14, 2020 4:00 am "Idols" is a pejorative word that Buddhists should probably avoid.
Hmmm...maybe.

From Wikipedia
In many Indian religions, such as theistic and non-theistic forms of Hinduism, Buddhism and Jainism, idols (murti) are considered as symbolism for the absolute but not The Absolute,[5] or icons of spiritual ideas,[5][6] or the embodiment of the divine.[7] It is a means to focus one's religious pursuits and worship

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idolatry


Seems like the word is mostly a bugaboo for monotheists.
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2. I support Mingyur R and HHDL in their positions against lama abuse.
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tingdzin wrote: Wed Oct 14, 2020 4:00 am "Idols" is a pejorative word that Buddhists should probably avoid.
Hmm you are right I guess.... Sorry for that I'll keep that in mind thanks :) :) I meant no disrespect you see
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Varis wrote: Thu Oct 01, 2020 5:25 am From left to right:
Karma Pakshi
Nagarjuna
Sakyamuni Buddha
Atisha or Khyungpo Naljor
Not sure on the last one
Atisha or Khyungpo Naljor here I thought it could be also Shantideva iconography is similar

https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&url=htt ... AdAAAAABAD
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Arkadutta019 wrote: Wed Oct 14, 2020 6:45 am
Atisha or Khyungpo Naljor here I thought it could be also Shantideva iconography is similar

https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&url=htt ... AdAAAAABAD
Yeah, there's like 100+ different masters with the same sort of iconography haha. Was thinking of who might be most relevant to that particular lineage and those came to mind.
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Varis wrote: Thu Oct 15, 2020 9:15 am
Arkadutta019 wrote: Wed Oct 14, 2020 6:45 am
Atisha or Khyungpo Naljor here I thought it could be also Shantideva iconography is similar

https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&url=htt ... AdAAAAABAD
Yeah, there's like 100+ different masters with the same sort of iconography haha. Was thinking of who might be most relevant to that particular lineage and those came to mind.
The best way I think is to ask the Monks but I'm always afraid maybe they would be offended or perhaps think I'm being over inquisitive
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The figure to the right of Shakyamuni is Asanga
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Arkadutta019 wrote: Thu Oct 15, 2020 1:44 pm The best way I think is to ask the Monks but I'm always afraid maybe they would be offended or perhaps think I'm being over inquisitive
You should ask, most monks are very happy to share what they know about the dharma. There's no reason for them to offended.
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was able to find two better images of the last statue on the right of The Master
posting just in case

https://ibb.co/GpLgZ3D

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https://ibb.co/gypb9t4
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yeshegyaltsen wrote: Thu Oct 15, 2020 3:45 pm The figure to the right of Shakyamuni is Asanga
Thank You Sir... Thank You
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