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Antumbra
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HYT Commitments

Post by Antumbra » Thu Mar 22, 2018 5:36 pm

Hello Everyone,

Long story short, some years ago I had an interest in the Sakya cycle of Chakrasamvara HH Sakya Trizin was bestowing at this event: viewtopic.php?f=83&t=3187. AFAIK, I don't remember there being any mention of commitments for receiving this empowerment. I was under the impression this was being given out as a blessing considering the size of the audience and since there weren't any copies of a practice text around from what I remember. The only reason I've remembered receiving this empowerment was because I had a computer print out of a concise practice text that I found recently. Anyone on this board been to this event or know what the situation surrounding HYT empowerments in the Sakya lineage?

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Re: HYT Commitments

Post by kirtu » Thu Mar 22, 2018 7:04 pm

Antumbra wrote:
Thu Mar 22, 2018 5:36 pm
Hello Everyone,

Long story short, some years ago I had an interest in the Sakya cycle of Chakrasamvara HH Sakya Trizin was bestowing at this event: viewtopic.php?f=83&t=3187. AFAIK, I don't remember there being any mention of commitments for receiving this empowerment. ... Anyone on this board been to this event or know what the situation surrounding HYT empowerments in the Sakya lineage?
Usually major empowerments (generally two day empowerments, but there is also at least one practice which is major but doesn't fit in the two day scheme) incur committments. Traditionally this is also limited to a small number of new people (25 from memory). HHST is explicit about the committments. He would have said something. If you don't remember it then I would just view it as having been a blessing.

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Re: HYT Commitments

Post by Josef » Fri Mar 23, 2018 4:12 pm

Antumbra wrote:
Thu Mar 22, 2018 5:36 pm
Hello Everyone,

Long story short, some years ago I had an interest in the Sakya cycle of Chakrasamvara HH Sakya Trizin was bestowing at this event: viewtopic.php?f=83&t=3187. AFAIK, I don't remember there being any mention of commitments for receiving this empowerment. I was under the impression this was being given out as a blessing considering the size of the audience and since there weren't any copies of a practice text around from what I remember. The only reason I've remembered receiving this empowerment was because I had a computer print out of a concise practice text that I found recently. Anyone on this board been to this event or know what the situation surrounding HYT empowerments in the Sakya lineage?
He didnt give a specific practice requirement but the samayas of annutaratantra were given.
Kye ma!
The river of continuity is marked by impermanence.
Ceaseless flowing of appearance.
Beautiful and repulsive.
The dance of life and death is a display of the vast expanse.
With gratitude the watcher and the watched pass through the barrier of duality.

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Re: HYT Commitments

Post by PeterC » Fri Mar 30, 2018 6:28 am

Antumbra wrote:
Thu Mar 22, 2018 5:36 pm
Hello Everyone,

Long story short, some years ago I had an interest in the Sakya cycle of Chakrasamvara HH Sakya Trizin was bestowing at this event: viewtopic.php?f=83&t=3187. AFAIK, I don't remember there being any mention of commitments for receiving this empowerment. I was under the impression this was being given out as a blessing considering the size of the audience and since there weren't any copies of a practice text around from what I remember. The only reason I've remembered receiving this empowerment was because I had a computer print out of a concise practice text that I found recently. Anyone on this board been to this event or know what the situation surrounding HYT empowerments in the Sakya lineage?
The idea of an empowerment as a 'blessing' is used a bit ambiguously, but I take it to mean just that the Lama didn't give any specific practice requirements: as a definitional issue it's simply not possible to give an HYT empowerment without conferring samaya.

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Re: HYT Commitments

Post by Grigoris » Fri Mar 30, 2018 12:02 pm

Antumbra wrote:
Thu Mar 22, 2018 5:36 pm
Hello Everyone,

Long story short, some years ago I had an interest in the Sakya cycle of Chakrasamvara HH Sakya Trizin was bestowing at this event: viewtopic.php?f=83&t=3187. AFAIK, I don't remember there being any mention of commitments for receiving this empowerment. I was under the impression this was being given out as a blessing considering the size of the audience and since there weren't any copies of a practice text around from what I remember. The only reason I've remembered receiving this empowerment was because I had a computer print out of a concise practice text that I found recently. Anyone on this board been to this event or know what the situation surrounding HYT empowerments in the Sakya lineage?
The downfalls after a HYT empowerment, for all lineages, are these.
"My religion is not deceiving myself."
Jetsun Milarepa 1052-1135 CE

"Butchers, prostitutes, those guilty of the five most heinous crimes, outcasts, the underprivileged: all are utterly the substance of existence and nothing other than total bliss."
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Re: HYT Commitments

Post by Mantrik » Fri Mar 30, 2018 1:00 pm

Antumbra wrote:
Thu Mar 22, 2018 5:36 pm
Hello Everyone,

Long story short, some years ago I had an interest in the Sakya cycle of Chakrasamvara HH Sakya Trizin was bestowing at this event: viewtopic.php?f=83&t=3187. AFAIK, I don't remember there being any mention of commitments for receiving this empowerment. I was under the impression this was being given out as a blessing considering the size of the audience and since there weren't any copies of a practice text around from what I remember. The only reason I've remembered receiving this empowerment was because I had a computer print out of a concise practice text that I found recently. Anyone on this board been to this event or know what the situation surrounding HYT empowerments in the Sakya lineage?
As this is described as Cakrasamvara empowerment which counts as the pre-requisite for the Vajrayogini empowerment, if you want it, then I would regard it as full blown HYT permission for a Yidam practice, to echo what others have said.
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