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Ayya Yeshe

Post by gelukman » Sat Mar 31, 2018 8:44 pm

Hello

http://buddhistinsights.com/ayya-yeshe/

There is a nun called Ayya Yeshe. Who is very active and such a public person.
So the question arise. What is she doing?
Quickly seen I did not find any mention her qualification to ordain women?

If some one have more insight I would be happy to hear.

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Re: Ayya Yeshe

Post by Fortyeightvows » Sat Mar 31, 2018 10:55 pm

It it tradition that lay people should not study the vinaya in depth.
That being said, it is only in very particular circumstance that one monastic can ordain another. It requires a group of monastics for an ordination to be valid.

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Re: Ayya Yeshe

Post by Grigoris » Sun Apr 01, 2018 9:14 am

gelukman wrote:
Sat Mar 31, 2018 8:44 pm
Hello

http://buddhistinsights.com/ayya-yeshe/

There is a nun called Ayya Yeshe. Who is very active and such a public person.
So the question arise. What is she doing?
Quickly seen I did not find any mention her qualification to ordain women?

If some one have more insight I would be happy to hear.

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Any vow holding monastic is "qualified" to ordain given there are another two (for a total of three) vow holding monastics present.

Why do you want to know? You want to be ordained by her?
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Re: Ayya Yeshe

Post by Fortyeightvows » Sun Apr 01, 2018 11:04 am

Grigoris wrote:
Sun Apr 01, 2018 9:14 am
Why do you want to know? You want to be ordained by her?
I don't think that nuns can ordain monks.

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Re: Ayya Yeshe

Post by Grigoris » Sun Apr 01, 2018 11:13 am

Fortyeightvows wrote:
Sun Apr 01, 2018 11:04 am
Grigoris wrote:
Sun Apr 01, 2018 9:14 am
Why do you want to know? You want to be ordained by her?
I don't think that nuns can ordain monks.
I don't think our friend wants to ordain. ;)
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Jetsun Milarepa 1052-1135 CE

"Butchers, prostitutes, those guilty of the five most heinous crimes, outcasts, the underprivileged: all are utterly the substance of existence and nothing other than total bliss."
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Re: Ayya Yeshe

Post by kirtu » Sun Apr 01, 2018 2:54 pm

gelukman wrote:
Sat Mar 31, 2018 8:44 pm
Hello

http://buddhistinsights.com/ayya-yeshe/

There is a nun called Ayya Yeshe. Who is very active and such a public person.
So the question arise. What is she doing?

She engaged in teaching Dharma in HIV hospices, schools, drug and alchohol rehab centres; she also trained as a yoga teacher.

When she came to India in 2004, Venerable Yeshe studied for two years in a monastery, but felt a need to make Buddhism accessible and socially engaged while still trying to maintain her contemplative way of life. She met Indian Buddhists in 2005 and has been working with them ever since. Her teachers are Sakya Trizen, the second highest Lama in Tibetan Buddhism; and Venerable Thich Nhat Hanh, the nobel peace prize poet and peace activist. Ayya Yeshe Bodhicitta is the author of ‘Everyday Enlightenment’ published by Harper Collins and is featured in the documentaries ‘life beyong the begging bowl’ and ‘Through the Eastern Gate’.
She is engaged in Social Dharma work.
Quickly seen I did not find any mention her qualification to ordain women?
Where is it mentioned that she is ordaining people? Having said that, Gegoris's statement on ordination is correct but I'm not sure that that is actaully followed in practice even in the Mahayana.

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Re: Ayya Yeshe

Post by Malcolm » Sun Apr 01, 2018 2:56 pm

Grigoris wrote:
Sun Apr 01, 2018 9:14 am
gelukman wrote:
Sat Mar 31, 2018 8:44 pm
Hello

http://buddhistinsights.com/ayya-yeshe/

There is a nun called Ayya Yeshe. Who is very active and such a public person.
So the question arise. What is she doing?
Quickly seen I did not find any mention her qualification to ordain women?

If some one have more insight I would be happy to hear.

.
Any vow holding monastic is "qualified" to ordain given there are another two (for a total of three) vow holding monastics present.

Why do you want to know? You want to be ordained by her?

Well, not exactly. Bhikṣunis cannot ordain men. They can at most give them refuge (barring bodhisattva vows and samaya, which do not have gender restrictions).
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Re: Ayya Yeshe

Post by gelukman » Sun Apr 01, 2018 5:53 pm

Atleast what I understood she had ordained nuns.
She says it probably in few places, internet and youtube

"Of the thirteen people I ordained with, only three others are still ordained."
http://awakeningbuddhistwomen.blogspot. ... arved.html

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Re: Ayya Yeshe

Post by Grigoris » Sun Apr 01, 2018 6:00 pm

Malcolm wrote:
Sun Apr 01, 2018 2:56 pm
Well, not exactly. Bhikṣunis cannot ordain men. They can at most give them refuge (barring bodhisattva vows and samaya, which do not have gender restrictions).
Yeah, I know. The statement is in the context of a discussion about a nun ordaining women.
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"Butchers, prostitutes, those guilty of the five most heinous crimes, outcasts, the underprivileged: all are utterly the substance of existence and nothing other than total bliss."
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Re: Ayya Yeshe

Post by Grigoris » Tue Apr 03, 2018 2:49 pm

gelukman wrote:
Sun Apr 01, 2018 5:53 pm
Atleast what I understood she had ordained nuns.
She says it probably in few places, internet and youtube

"Of the thirteen people I ordained with, only three others are still ordained."
http://awakeningbuddhistwomen.blogspot. ... arved.html
She says nothing of the sort in this article.
"My religion is not deceiving myself."
Jetsun Milarepa 1052-1135 CE

"Butchers, prostitutes, those guilty of the five most heinous crimes, outcasts, the underprivileged: all are utterly the substance of existence and nothing other than total bliss."
The Supreme Source - The Kunjed Gyalpo
The Fundamental Tantra of Dzogchen Semde

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Re: Ayya Yeshe

Post by Seishin » Tue Apr 03, 2018 3:04 pm

gelukman wrote:
Sun Apr 01, 2018 5:53 pm
Atleast what I understood she had ordained nuns.
She says it probably in few places, internet and youtube

"Of the thirteen people I ordained with, only three others are still ordained."
http://awakeningbuddhistwomen.blogspot. ... arved.html
"ordained with", in other words, there were other women who ordained at the same time as her, with the same teacher. Its not saying she ordained them, its saying she ordained with them.

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Re: Ayya Yeshe

Post by Wicked Yeshe » Mon Apr 16, 2018 2:57 am

Seems legit. I want to ordain someday and opportunities to do so is always good.

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