Sakya Trichen's Views?
Sakya Trichen's Views?
What are the Sakya Trichen's views on webcast empowerments?
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I dont think he has made a statement on it.
It doesnt really matter though.
For lamas who give them it works, for those who dont give them it is irrelevant.
"All phenomena of samsara depend on the mind, so when the essence of mind is purified, samsara is purified. Since the phenomena of nirvana depend on the pristine consciousness of vidyā, because one remains in the immediacy of vidyā, buddhahood arises on its own. All critical points are summarized with those two." - Longchenpa
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Not directly answering the webcasts question but he touches on secrecy and vajrayāna in his interview on the Wisdom Podcast...
https://learn.wisdompubs.org/podcast/h-h-sakya-trichen/
See 31 mins in.
https://learn.wisdompubs.org/podcast/h-h-sakya-trichen/
See 31 mins in.
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Even making the Yangchenma tradition secret?Tom wrote: ↑Wed May 30, 2018 1:29 am Not directly answering the webcasts question but he touches on secrecy and vajrayāna in his interview on the Wisdom Podcast...
https://learn.wisdompubs.org/podcast/h-h-sakya-trichen/
See 31 mins in.
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I remember, a time before 2010, HHST was giving Vajrakila torma initiation in Lerabling, I was not there nor was in Rigpa centre, just I heard that it was livestreamed to 'retreat centres' around the world. Though I don't know if HHST approved the effectiveness of initiation and samaya established in the distanced case. People from Rigpa might be able to tell. That was a time when HHDL not extremely keen on live stream empowerment.
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I don’t know what his specific view on the question would be, but whatever it is, I’m pretty sure he would not see any benefit in discussing it with strangers onlineTenma wrote: ↑Wed May 30, 2018 6:52 amEven making the Yangchenma tradition secret?Tom wrote: ↑Wed May 30, 2018 1:29 am Not directly answering the webcasts question but he touches on secrecy and vajrayāna in his interview on the Wisdom Podcast...
https://learn.wisdompubs.org/podcast/h-h-sakya-trichen/
See 31 mins in.
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Wait, what causes HHDL to change his mind? Seems that a high Tantra practice like Vajrakilaya was allowed to have a webcast, so why not a deity whose practice is not well known and given at rare times?narraboth wrote: ↑Fri Jun 01, 2018 10:15 am I remember, a time before 2010, HHST was giving Vajrakila torma initiation in Lerabling, I was not there nor was in Rigpa centre, just I heard that it was livestreamed to 'retreat centres' around the world. Though I don't know if HHST approved the effectiveness of initiation and samaya established in the distanced case. People from Rigpa might be able to tell. That was a time when HHDL not extremely keen on live stream empowerment.
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His Holiness decides whether to webcast empowerments based on the answers of the protectors and oracles, so he only does it when he's told that it will be of benefit of all sentient beings. Which vajrakilaya are you referring to?
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I mean the Sakya Trizin's Vajrakilaya. As for Dalai Lama, I was surprised that he once wasn't keen on webcast empowerments(I know he offered the Kalachakra, Hayagriva, Chenrezig, and other empowerments live).Lobsang Chojor wrote: ↑Fri Jun 01, 2018 7:53 pmHis Holiness decides whether to webcast empowerments based on the answers of the protectors and oracles, so he only does it when he's told that it will be of benefit of all sentient beings. Which vajrakilaya are you referring to?
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Did you mix up HHST and HHDL here....
Anyway, for HHST's RIgpa vajrakila case, 1. we don't know if HH knew or approved the live stream 2. if HH did, we don't know if that's just a form of blessing rather than actual empowerment, regarding the Rigpa retreat centres people supposedly have received quite a bit empowerments before, 3. what's HHST's view on Nyingma tradition (including Kun lineage) torma empowerment v.s. Sarma JeNang v.s. 2 days major empowerment.
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Ah right, I was confused about the vajrakilaya thinking I had missed something from His Holiness.
"Morality does not become pure unless darkness is dispelled by the light of wisdom"
- Aryasura, Paramitasamasa 6.5
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Where can I contact HHSTr?narraboth wrote: ↑Sat Jun 02, 2018 12:32 pmDid you mix up HHST and HHDL here....
Anyway, for HHST's RIgpa vajrakila case, 1. we don't know if HH knew or approved the live stream 2. if HH did, we don't know if that's just a form of blessing rather than actual empowerment, regarding the Rigpa retreat centres people supposedly have received quite a bit empowerments before, 3. what's HHST's view on Nyingma tradition (including Kun lineage) torma empowerment v.s. Sarma JeNang v.s. 2 days major empowerment.
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A period of time ago HHDL was asked about live stream or video empowerment, at that time, in that interview, HH did had some concerns.
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I have been told by my Lama that many people that attend his empowerments will not follow up with the proper practice.
He allows them to attend and considers that they are there for a "Blessing" not an "Empowerment".
I wonder if there would be a difference in the Lama's power you receive in a "Web" empowerment when it was live streamed and say seeing it a year later?
He allows them to attend and considers that they are there for a "Blessing" not an "Empowerment".
I wonder if there would be a difference in the Lama's power you receive in a "Web" empowerment when it was live streamed and say seeing it a year later?
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That verygreenvajrapani wrote: ↑Tue Jul 03, 2018 1:58 pm I have been told by my Lama that many people that attend his empowerments will not follow up with the proper practice.
He allows them to attend and considers that they are there for a "Blessing" not an "Empowerment".
Much depends on the empowerment.
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Let's say a White Sarasvati empowerment.Malcolm wrote: ↑Tue Jul 03, 2018 2:40 pmThat verygreenvajrapani wrote: ↑Tue Jul 03, 2018 1:58 pm I have been told by my Lama that many people that attend his empowerments will not follow up with the proper practice.
He allows them to attend and considers that they are there for a "Blessing" not an "Empowerment".
Much depends on the empowerment.
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While this is welcome news it gives no ideas of his view on webcast empowerments.
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