Chod in gelug buddhism

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Chod in gelug buddhism

Post by Lobsang Chojor » Fri Dec 11, 2015 7:31 pm

Hi

I'm not sure if this is in the wrong section, so I apologise to Mods if it is.

My questions are:
  • Is chod practiced in gelug buddhism, and if so, do you know any examples of teachers.
  • And are any empowerments required to praactice chod.
Thank you in advance :namaste: :buddha1:
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Re: Chod in gelug buddhism

Post by Malcolm » Fri Dec 11, 2015 7:48 pm

Manjushri Fan wrote:Hi

I'm not sure if this is in the wrong section, so I apologise to Mods if it is.

My questions are:
  • Is chod practiced in gelug buddhism, and if so, do you know any examples of teachers.
  • And are any empowerments required to praactice chod.

The answer to both questions is yes. Lama Zopa teaches it, among others.
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Re: Chod in gelug buddhism

Post by MiphamFan » Fri Dec 11, 2015 7:59 pm

Mongolian Gelugpas also have an interesting Chod tradition. The Mongolian-style drum is also wider than the Tibetan one and there is actually a Mongolian "terma" of Chod from Danzaa Ravjaa (not sure of exact spelling).

ChNN visited an elderly female master there shortly before her death.

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Re: Chod in gelug buddhism

Post by udawa » Fri Dec 11, 2015 10:14 pm

You might want to look at this
This book presents instructions on the practice of Chod, or "Cutting Through Ego Clinging", from the Gelugpa Ganden tradition as revealed by one of the greatest Tibetan masters of modern times, Kyabje Zong Rinpoche. The instructions are offered with the engaging directness, wit, and stories for which Rinpoche was legendary. He tells miraculous stories of the Ganden oral lineage masters and then gives detailed explanations of the actual practice, including such topics as the degree of fear "necessary" for Chod practice and how "to remember dream and death, morning, moon, and night."
http://www.wisdom-books.com/product/cho ... ion/15376/


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Re: Chod in gelug buddhism

Post by Lobsang Chojor » Sat Dec 12, 2015 12:56 am

Many thanks to you all :twothumbsup:

Malcolm, many thanks for this, I shall speak to a FPMT lama soon about this.

MiphamFan, that sounds like something to research.

Udawa, that looks like a great book, in fact I've ordered a copy.

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Re: Chod in gelug buddhism

Post by jmlee369 » Sat Dec 12, 2015 5:57 am

I don't know how appropriate Chod in the Ganden Tradition is for readers without the initiation. Chod in Gelug has been a rather more secretive practice, so much so that some non-Gelugs were said to have thought there was no lineage for it in the tradition. The situation has been a bit different in Mongolia though, where it seems to have been more public.

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Re: Chod in gelug buddhism

Post by ngodrup » Sat Dec 12, 2015 7:10 am

Not only does Lama Zopa practice Ganden Chod, as was mentoned,
but he requested that Choden Rinpoche give the Wang in the 90's
in California. And it was given by him. The Ganden chod, as far as i know,
is esssentially Machig's chod. Remember that much of what is called Geugpa
tradition has origins in Drikung Kaguy, Shangpa kagyu, Sakyapa, and yes, even
Nyingma. As much as 70% of Lama Tsongkapa's Collected treatises are on
tantric subjects. If you read the book Enlightened Lives (an anthology of
Gelug biographies) you'll see that chod was practiced by Gandenpas in the first
generations. So there's really no issue at all.

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Re: Chod in gelug buddhism

Post by Fortyeightvows » Sat Dec 19, 2015 10:27 pm

i was one of those fortunate enough to recieve the chod empowerment from Choden Rinpoche. I will always remember his kindness.

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Post by Dharmaswede » Sun Dec 20, 2015 7:21 pm

Don't miss check out their programme for 2016:
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Re: Chod in gelug buddhism

Post by Lobsang Chojor » Fri Mar 18, 2016 11:45 pm

Hi all

I've finally got round to looking at the copy of Chod in the Ganden Tradition (a gift) and I'm wondering if I can read the overview, preliminaries and actual practice without the empowerment. Obviously I understand that I cannot do the sadhanas.

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