Je Tsongkhapa thangka image

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Je Tsongkhapa thangka image

Post by Antumbra » Thu Mar 22, 2018 6:22 pm

Hi,

Does anyone know if this image is legit or if it has shown up anywhere else?: Image

I like this image and was wondering about it's authenticity. Anyone here think it would be ok to visualise this image when reciting praises, migtsema or even ghanden lha gyema?

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Re: Je Tsongkhapa thangka image

Post by anjali » Thu Mar 22, 2018 8:38 pm

Seems legit. I found the image on wikipedia here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Je_Tsongkhapa. By clicking on the image, there is this blurb,
Je Tsongkhapa in the fifth vision of Khedrup Gelek Pelzang, 1st Panchen Lama. This version dates from the late 1800s. These images were in the collection of a previous Dali Lama. The digital version of this image comes from the internet, from http://museum.oglethorpe.edu/TibetGalle ... 5_page.htm.

Unfortunately, the link to Oglethrope University Museum of Art is broken.
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Re: Je Tsongkhapa thangka image

Post by Bristollad » Thu Mar 22, 2018 9:31 pm

A small version of the image is still on the site - it says it was from an exhibition:

The Mystical Arts of Tibet Featuring Personal Sacred Objects of the Dalai Lama
July 20 – December 29, 1996 and April 15 – June 7, 1998

Seems to be five in the series on the site

https://museum.oglethorpe.edu/exhibits/ ... st-vision/
https://museum.oglethorpe.edu/exhibits/ ... nd-vision/
https://museum.oglethorpe.edu/exhibits/ ... rd-vision/
https://museum.oglethorpe.edu/exhibits/ ... th-vision/
https://museum.oglethorpe.edu/exhibits/ ... th-vision/

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Re: Je Tsongkhapa thangka image

Post by Dranyen » Thu Mar 22, 2018 11:58 pm

That is one of the 5 visions that Je Tsongkhapa's disciple Khedrup Je had of Je Tsongkhapa, after his passing.

More info here near the bottom of the page:
https://fpmt.org/mandala/archives/older ... ong-khapa/

As you probably know, the traditional visualization for Gaden Lhagyama is as this one:
https://fpmt.org/wp-content/uploads/sit ... jpg?x25788

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Re: Je Tsongkhapa thangka image

Post by Antumbra » Sun Mar 25, 2018 12:13 am

:twothumbsup:

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Re: Je Tsongkhapa thangka image

Post by sadiksha » Tue Mar 27, 2018 8:54 am

The name Tsongkhapa is derived from a great meditator of Bodhisattva. The mandalas under Tsongkhapa generally includes tree-like structure. In the painting like Lineage Tree and Karmapa Buddha is seen getting knowledge and power from a supreme force, which is Tsongkhapa.

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More information about Tsongkhapa and other Thangkas can be found here:
https://mandalas.life/product-category/tsongkhapa/

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Post by Grigoris » Tue Mar 27, 2018 10:02 am

sadiksha wrote:
Tue Mar 27, 2018 8:54 am
In the painting like Lineage Tree and Karmapa Buddha is seen getting knowledge and power from a supreme force, which is Tsongkhapa.
Ummmmmm... the Karmapa lineage had started some 200 years before Tsongkhapa's birth.
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Post by Mantrik » Tue Mar 27, 2018 10:46 am

Grigoris wrote:
Tue Mar 27, 2018 10:02 am
sadiksha wrote:
Tue Mar 27, 2018 8:54 am
In the painting like Lineage Tree and Karmapa Buddha is seen getting knowledge and power from a supreme force, which is Tsongkhapa.
Ummmmmm... the Karmapa lineage had started some 200 years before Tsongkhapa's birth.
Could be a reference to Manjushri - Tsongkhapa is sometimes claimed to be an emanation of Manjushri.
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Re: Je Tsongkhapa thangka image

Post by Lobsang Chojor » Tue Mar 27, 2018 12:54 pm

Mantrik wrote:
Tue Mar 27, 2018 10:46 am
Grigoris wrote:
Tue Mar 27, 2018 10:02 am
sadiksha wrote:
Tue Mar 27, 2018 8:54 am
In the painting like Lineage Tree and Karmapa Buddha is seen getting knowledge and power from a supreme force, which is Tsongkhapa.
Ummmmmm... the Karmapa lineage had started some 200 years before Tsongkhapa's birth.
Could be a reference to Manjushri - Tsongkhapa is sometimes claimed to be an emanation of Manjushri.
Could be, although it'd be odd to refer to Manjushri as "the man from the onion valley" :tongue: I thought it might just be a misidentification of people in the refuge tree
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Re: Je Tsongkhapa thangka image

Post by Mantrik » Tue Mar 27, 2018 1:09 pm

Lobsang Chojor wrote:
Tue Mar 27, 2018 12:54 pm
Mantrik wrote:
Tue Mar 27, 2018 10:46 am
Grigoris wrote:
Tue Mar 27, 2018 10:02 am
Ummmmmm... the Karmapa lineage had started some 200 years before Tsongkhapa's birth.
Could be a reference to Manjushri - Tsongkhapa is sometimes claimed to be an emanation of Manjushri.
Could be, although it'd be odd to refer to Manjushri as "the man from the onion valley" :tongue: I thought it might just be a misidentification of people in the refuge tree
I was referring to the 'supreme force' sadiksha wrote about.

Wonder if the phrase 'knowing your onions' refers to the wisdom of Tsongkhapa...lol :)
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Re: Je Tsongkhapa thangka image

Post by Lobsang Chojor » Tue Mar 27, 2018 4:15 pm

Mantrik wrote:
Tue Mar 27, 2018 1:09 pm
Lobsang Chojor wrote:
Tue Mar 27, 2018 12:54 pm
Mantrik wrote:
Tue Mar 27, 2018 10:46 am


Could be a reference to Manjushri - Tsongkhapa is sometimes claimed to be an emanation of Manjushri.
Could be, although it'd be odd to refer to Manjushri as "the man from the onion valley" :tongue: I thought it might just be a misidentification of people in the refuge tree
I was referring to the 'supreme force' sadiksha wrote about.

Wonder if the phrase 'knowing your onions' refers to the wisdom of Tsongkhapa...lol :)
Lol :)

Sorry, for some reason when I was reading your comment that phrase in the post slipped my mind
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Re: Je Tsongkhapa thangka image

Post by Grigoris » Tue Mar 27, 2018 6:52 pm

Lobsang Chojor wrote:
Tue Mar 27, 2018 12:54 pm
Could be, although it'd be odd to refer to Manjushri as "the man from the onion valley" :tongue: I thought it might just be a misidentification of people in the refuge tree
Must be this, because I don't see any Black Hats in the crowd...
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