How many type of Shamatha meditation in Tendai?

Forum for discussion of East Asian Buddhism. Questions specific to one school are best posted in the appropriate sub-forum.
Post Reply
User avatar
ShineeSeoul
Posts: 256
Joined: Fri May 29, 2015 9:49 pm

How many type of Shamatha meditation in Tendai?

Post by ShineeSeoul » Fri Oct 07, 2016 6:02 pm

Hi everyone

I am interested to know all types of Shamatha meditation that is practiced in Tendai

I did talk about this in other thread which I got answer that some practice wasn't published in the media

so I wanted to know about those types of practice

I know the main practice which is counting breath, or Chanting Om Mani Padme Hum, is there any other?

I would like to know, thanks

User avatar
ShineeSeoul
Posts: 256
Joined: Fri May 29, 2015 9:49 pm

Re: How many type of Shamatha meditation in Tendai?

Post by ShineeSeoul » Fri Oct 07, 2016 6:06 pm

and is there any tendai buddhist that is never practice shamatha meditation? or it mean they practice other type of meditation as alternative?

User avatar
Seishin
Former staff member
Posts: 1841
Joined: Mon Mar 22, 2010 11:53 am
Contact:

Re: How many type of Shamatha meditation in Tendai?

Post by Seishin » Mon Oct 10, 2016 9:34 am

Hi ShineeSeoul, as I explained in the last thread on the same subject http://dharmawheel.net/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=23304
the various forms of shamatha can be found outlined in Smṛtyupasthāna Sūtra 念處經. Zhiyi outlined these practices in his text 四念処 (Shinenjo). Sadly, there isn't an English translation, but put very briefly the practices are as follows;

1. Mi-nenjo 身念処 - Mindfulness of the body (Kāyā)
2. Jyu-nenjo 受念処 - Mindfulness of feelings/sensations (Vedanā)
3. Shin-nenjo 心念処 - Mindfulness of mind/consciousness (Cittā)
4. Hō nenjo 法念処 - Mindfulness of Dharmas (Dhammā)

See this sutta for more information http://www.accesstoinsight.org/lib/auth ... wayof.html

The 'dharani of six-syllable phrases' that was mentioned in the previous thread is not the same as the Tibetan mantra 'Om mani padme hum', although there is no problem in chanting that if you wish. The Dharani Zhiyi spoke of is composed of one hundred and five characters. It's name "six-syllable" has more to do with it being related to the Six forms of Kannon that how many actual syllables it has. See here for more information https://nirc.nanzan-u.ac.jp/nfile/4341

In gassho,
Seishin

User avatar
Seishin
Former staff member
Posts: 1841
Joined: Mon Mar 22, 2010 11:53 am
Contact:

Re: How many type of Shamatha meditation in Tendai?

Post by Seishin » Mon Oct 10, 2016 11:12 am

ShineeSeoul wrote:and is there any tendai buddhist that is never practice shamatha meditation? or it mean they practice other type of meditation as alternative?
As a lay person, this would depend on whose temple you attend and what teaching/instructions one receives. As Tendai Buddhism is fairly eclectic you will find there are some temples dedicated to goma (fire ceremony), some dedicated to nembutsu and some dedicated to meditation. Some temples may do a mix of all.

As priests it is a requirement to learn shamatha

User avatar
ShineeSeoul
Posts: 256
Joined: Fri May 29, 2015 9:49 pm

Re: How many type of Shamatha meditation in Tendai?

Post by ShineeSeoul » Thu Oct 13, 2016 6:27 am

Seishin wrote:Hi ShineeSeoul, as I explained in the last thread on the same subject http://dharmawheel.net/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=23304
the various forms of shamatha can be found outlined in Smṛtyupasthāna Sūtra 念處經. Zhiyi outlined these practices in his text 四念処 (Shinenjo). Sadly, there isn't an English translation, but put very briefly the practices are as follows;

1. Mi-nenjo 身念処 - Mindfulness of the body (Kāyā)
2. Jyu-nenjo 受念処 - Mindfulness of feelings/sensations (Vedanā)
3. Shin-nenjo 心念処 - Mindfulness of mind/consciousness (Cittā)
4. Hō nenjo 法念処 - Mindfulness of Dharmas (Dhammā)

See this sutta for more information http://www.accesstoinsight.org/lib/auth ... wayof.html

The 'dharani of six-syllable phrases' that was mentioned in the previous thread is not the same as the Tibetan mantra 'Om mani padme hum', although there is no problem in chanting that if you wish. The Dharani Zhiyi spoke of is composed of one hundred and five characters. It's name "six-syllable" has more to do with it being related to the Six forms of Kannon that how many actual syllables it has. See here for more information https://nirc.nanzan-u.ac.jp/nfile/4341

In gassho,
Seishin
Thanks for explination

oh my bad, I thought six syllable meant for Om Mani Padme Hum

I have read about it now, there is little resources about this Dharani, is the Dharani is about reciting the name of the six Kannons, or it should be the full long mantra?

User avatar
ShineeSeoul
Posts: 256
Joined: Fri May 29, 2015 9:49 pm

Re: How many type of Shamatha meditation in Tendai?

Post by ShineeSeoul » Thu Oct 13, 2016 6:29 am

Seishin wrote:
ShineeSeoul wrote:and is there any tendai buddhist that is never practice shamatha meditation? or it mean they practice other type of meditation as alternative?
As a lay person, this would depend on whose temple you attend and what teaching/instructions one receives. As Tendai Buddhism is fairly eclectic you will find there are some temples dedicated to goma (fire ceremony), some dedicated to nembutsu and some dedicated to meditation. Some temples may do a mix of all.

As priests it is a requirement to learn shamatha
interesting....I didn't know Tendai have different types of temples

Post Reply

Return to “East Asian Buddhism”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 12 guests