Coëmgenu wrote:Do you mean viewing all contact at the sense bases as misunderstood contact with the expounding of the Lotus Sutra? Or the body of Mahāvairocana?Minobu wrote:it's all from Buddha , everything.
I cannot find what i accused Q of saying...and i am pretty sure he did not use the word tathagatgharba...We were in a conversation about creationism and he referred to Buddha or original enlightenment or something or other is responsible for everything coming about or appearing....more thats not the words he used ..lol.....i cannot find the posts ...he said in with what i feel is deep respect and wants to show me something...and i want to show him....lol...fun times!Seishin wrote:Please can you show me who and where is says "all things come from Tathāgatagarbha"......Minobu wrote: i don't think so...but when one says all things come from Tathāgatagarbha it's just another creationist theory.
but read these quotes again
One of the major discourses of medieval Japanese Buddhism involved
the concept of original enlightenment (hongaku 本覚、. While the term
“original enlightenment thought，is today used very loosely to indicate
any sort of innate Buddha-nature concept, in the medieval period
hongaku had a more specific meaning as a particular Tendai reading
of the Lotus Sutra,
i don't know about you, but i read a sort of everything comes from original enlightenment from this...and it does not jive with what i believe ...From the perspective of this doctrine, all things, just as they are, manifest
the true aspect of reality and are the Buddha of primordial
enlightenment. Seen in their true light, all forms or daily conduct,
even one's delusive thoughts, are, without transformation, the expressions
of original enlightenment.The purpose of religious practice is
not to achieve a distant buddhahood in the future, but to realize that
one is Buddha from the outset.
i feel buddhism has fallen into an easy form of creationism to explain stuff...