Contrary to someone who said emptiness is not a philosophy but a view...The Cicada wrote: ↑Thu Oct 12, 2017 3:44 am
From the perspective of emptiness, we are illusory and so are our sufferings. We mistake ourselves and our sufferings for being "real," but for an illusion suffering over illusions, such things are "real" in their own misguided way. It is for this reason that the Buddha has pity for us, though in reality it "doesn't matter" one way or another since everything is empty, and there is no pity to be had.
first up once understood the effects vary from person to person, philosophically.
look at the above.
Once you take existance out of the picture entirely you end up with the above and what others are claiming.
Suffering is very real . it's not an illusion. what is illusory is the absence of inherency which leads to change.
So it is sort of illusory .
Lord Nagarjuna saw that what we dwell in and in fact everything is absent of inherent existence.
Does this make it any less real or just the fact nothing stands alone and is therefore in a state of constant change.
Pushing the emptiness view to the point of nihilism and it's all nothing and it's not really real anyway so who cares...
you will never gain an argument with those fellows. lol..
any joy or beauty is also taken out of the picture along with suffering.
And it is just absurd. Forcing some arcane nothingness view about the very feeling of the keyboard as they type it out is absurd.
Every moment is filled with gazillions of goings on...the only emptiness is the fact none of those gazillion goings on can happen in and of themselves.
co dependent/ co arising....the words ..think hard... they connote an emptiness of inherency...thats it.
so even though there is nothing inherent does not mean that means it is all nothing, not real.
It's what we are ..an ever changing reality . so yeah there is not one moment where it is hard coded here . it's always changing so you don't have something you can nail down.
Beings are here and are suffering and Lotus Buddhism is the way to realize liberation and buddhahood in this degenerate age.
we realize it in helping one another along with ourselves.
how can there be absolutely no persons when you can type "compassion is helping one another"
People take something way too far...make claims about enlightenment and this is the real deal and wait till you die to go to some heaven like realm..
Lotus Buddhism is about sticking around and living with the suffering as a Bodhisattva . there is no room for nihilism or buying into the reward of eternal bliss in heaven when you die.
A lot of energy went into making Samsara beautiful and not entirely a hellish place to live...we can thank the enlightened ones and the gods for that.
A rinpoche told me that. so i don't know people...what are these people pushing?
suffer what there is to suffer and enjoy what there is to enjoy.