Coëmgenu wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2017 12:20 pm
"You don't practice". More of the same from you. You went after me from this angle before.
*sigh*
no one is going after you.....*sigh *
the Buddhism is simple.
we live in a desire realm where all is suffering.
that means even if you won the biggest lottery it would not liberate you or make you totally happy...no one is...it cannot be accomplished espcially with worldly anything.
so a dharma is left to cure those of us in the burning house...we are trapped with our karma playing out in the background the foreground and the very collective ground we associate ourselves with.
so this is not a kumbaya sort of sit back meditate and all is well sort of buddhism...it might attract the incense crowd but it shows them that it is not all love and hugs and everything is nice ...it tackles the everyday problems of this realm in a much different way...
everything that happens to you whilst practicing is of import to you.
watch , learn and chant more.
I'm not going to write a whole post on the practice..for it takes years to actually realize what is happening...
but someone comes in and says
Lindama wrote: ↑Fri Nov 17, 2017 2:12 am
Now, as adults, I hope we find what brings us into a different aliveness... it's not easy. it may take time, don't stop here. You will find a new maturity that won't rely on chants and prayers .
well thats not on our radar...all i tried to do was show that this is not the Nichiren approach at all...
if you ,Coëmgenu , want this to be different ...well fine...what ever you want to do...if you post about it in this manner , i shall add my 2 cents.
take a look here..
Coëmgenu wrote: ↑Fri Nov 17, 2017 7:41 pm
You don't even know what your own practice
is man, but you pull this nonsense on me.
Terrible things may well happen to you when you chant. Indeed, regardless of it you chant. Lindama is absolutely correct in saying this, and you are levelling a cloud of obfuscation at her.
but if you have dedicated your life to Gohonzon and put your life in the auspice of gohonzon, this is the last thing that should be on your mind. It cannot be more clear to a person of practice in this manner.
Case-and-point: the OP chanted. The OP lost his job. The OP chanted.
Even if he had retained his job against all odds, that he chanted would be the miracle, not his retention of employment.
I tried to show that this is just the leaves of the tree fluttering in the winds of change...
the deeper aspect is why is this person trapped in this which could very well end up being a karmic cycle for them.
I'm not asking for job councillors here .
or gentle ladies with kind nudge and motherly advice on the matter ....
I'm asking , if indeed he has given himself to the auspice of Gohonzon , to realize what brought him to this juncture...himself ..and then tried to show the practice as a way to learn , and squash something deeper ...the poisonous cause ..which for me is not sleeping in late..
For that matter, no matter what you get when you chant, the chanting is the miracle, not what you think you got for it.
again it's not what you get it's what you end and destroy..the real enemy here is karma and the actual entrapment in the realm of desire..
arguing over what you get and don't get ...really now...
as i said if you really practice you will get what you need to live and continue..under the auspice of Gohonzon everything is a learning experience not at all like mr and mrs jolly and all the little jollies are experiencing.
that being said...the reality is we are sentients and we desire stuff...so...it's ok to want...want all you wish ...but don't actually chant for it whilst chanting...
it's sort of a trick...an Alchemy trick...do the practice ...proper like whilst chanting...focus...meld with Eagle peak or what is depicted on gohonzon...put your heart into ...whilst chanting...do the vipassana thing and ignore the noise in your head that comes and goes....
and maybe ...just maybe ...that which you desire will appear in your life....
the next trick is to keep it between you and gohonzon and accept it graciously and realize where it came from.....your practice...of changing your life condition and circumstance...it sort of comes inadvertently.. i've seen this..
\i've asked for things in the past and they never came...but i also tried to chant proper like due to my TM meditation training..sort of a vipassana thing i did not know was vipassana at the time...and stuff which was better and far more applicable to my life happened...unfolded...like wow!
I think it was the vipassna style chanting time that unfolded my life....Buddha and your Buddha Tathagata Garbha is well aware of your desires and needs....and is very capable of having anything appear for you in Samsara , for Buddha is the Master Alchemist here ...
also i think when you want to chant for others...all that goes out the window and just do it for others with their problem in mind...that for some odd reason works really fast...seen that too
anyway..it's not a war Coëmgenu ...you are way out there in deciphering minobu and his posts and their actual agendas instead of this hate filled war you think is happening...
edit P.S.
well thats not on our radar...all i tried to do was show that this is not the Nichiren approach at all...
if you ,Coëmgenu , want this to be different ...well fine...what ever you want to do...if you post about it in this manner , i shall add my 2 cents.
the above P.S.i want to make clear is not about the personal war in your head...
it is about what you want this Buddhism to be and what you think it is.
And the part of this Buddhism you want to shelve and just go about your daily life like mr and mrs jolly do. which i am not telling you not to do ...but pointing out it is not what this Buddhism is about..
also i took out the word old in gentle ladies...it was a bad thing i wrote due (omits more weirdness)...slip of the mind..very rude of me and hurtful ...i apologize ...did i tell you i'm old as well...arthritic minobu worries at time....