Carlita wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2017 2:55 pm
Minobu wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2017 5:19 am
Carlita wrote: ↑Fri Dec 22, 2017 9:06 pm
Are you disagreeing with me? If yes, where?
I was just giving my take on things.
I am pretty sure the sgi shoshu thing would have changed your view of what "GOD" means ...
I never believed in god (not the jewish, muslim, bahai, god). I was christian four years out of my adult life and the only god I knew was the physical jesus and physjcal sacraments. Without the physical person, I dont know what a god is. I practiced Buddhism Nichiren Shoshu before I went to Catholicism. Its been four some odd years since today I left and between time went to SGI.
Both Shoshu and SGI have politcal discrepencies that are embedded in their practice, shakabuku, and here how much presure to get the Gohonzon to chant for material happiness. I follow Tibetan Buddhism which seems no different in its politics. Though I dont let that disrupt my practice beyond specific lineage issues. But anyway, what works for you is always best. SGI meetings are pretty basic to welcome new commers. I see no study of the gosho directly so if thats the case maybe add a suggestion?
well i was brought up with a fanatical atheist father...i was not allowed, due to being shunned if i did, believe in God.
and yet i shakabukkued my father when his incurable cancer was eradicated...no more living on blood transfusions and plasmapheresis .
at gakki meetings he would use bible quotes to explain buddhism...lol...no one caught on...when i ended up with a bible and read it for the first time i would come across stuff my father said when he was alive at gakki meetings...i realized he must have memorized the bible...he was a genius of sorts.
anyway...after about 30 years in gakki/then shoshu one year after split...i did a 5 year stint into tibetan...
i caved ....i had these weird experiences with what they called the Holy spirit and tried in vain to be a Christian...i could not believe in Jesus and the whole die on the cross for our sins thing...i just thought , and still do , that Jesus is enlightened and brought a teaching to tame rome, which was our world at the time...being western...
but i got to know a pantheist version of God....
then came back to Lotus buddhism and the independent movement.
i see now i needed to be sort of softened up on the God the creator thing....why...in order to be able to understand what this site and it's heavies are teaching...
it's not God the Creator or Buddha the creator but we are living in Buddha's pure land.
not totally there yet ...but i think Lord Buddha knew exactly the route i have to take in order to understand...
so like the ten year stint with the bible and my view was not wasted but needed for me...
you must realize that Buddha teaches us and is very active....this whole holy spirit thing that i experienced and relayed to christians with total applause from them(manner of speaking not literal) did happen ...but it was for me and my journey home...people would argue it is not in any sutra...they miss the point and the depth to having Buddha as a teacher...
in the gakki we were not allowed to even think about Lord Sakyamuni Buddha as you know....well maybe now i dunno...anyway...Buddha was still there for us...showing us in our daily lives and placing things in our journey...Eagle Peak dudes and dudettes are very powerful...good friends to have on your side.
as a side note.....
i never met anyone who said this...find it fascinating !
I never believed in god (not the jewish, muslim, bahai, god). I was christian four years out of my adult life and the only god I knew was the physical jesus and physjcal sacraments.
is this some sort of american evangelical thing?