Malcolm wrote: ↑Wed Feb 07, 2018 8:11 pm
Minobu wrote: ↑Wed Feb 07, 2018 6:16 pm
Malcolm wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2018 9:55 pm
Yes, I have heard Gelugpas explain away his remarks as being related only to the fact that many Gelugpas in eastern Tibet were all becoming interested in Dzogchen, and he did not like that. He also did not like the so called Rime movement. He regarded it as a threat the Gelug intellectual hegemony in Tibet.
I asked you twice now a third.
Where do you get where you claim pabongka was using upaya as the reason for the criticisms .
i asked for source for i fear some would think you just shot that fake news out to bolster your stance in the discussion with "Q".
I am not required to report to you where and when I have had this or that conversation with Gelug apologists for Pabhongkha. It is sufficient that I have had them and now report them to you.
Should Pahbongkha's writings be avoided? I saw this on another thread, is he being hypocritical?
Abandoning Dharma is, in the final analysis, disparaging the Hinayana because of the Mahayana; favoring the Hinayana on account of the Mahayana; playing off sutra against tantra; playing off the four classes of the tantras against each other; favoring one of the Tibetan schools—the Sakya, Gelug, Kagyu, or Nyingma—and disparaging the rest; and so on. In other words, we abandon Dharma any time we favor our own tenets and disparage the rest.
Pabongka Rinpoche, Liberation in the palm of your hand: A concise discourse on the path to enlightenment (2006). Boston: Wisdom Publications, p. 137