Malcolm wrote:Then you are realist who proposes that things have independent existence.
In this instance, for the purpose of this conversation, yes.
If you look at how Buddhism is often taught, it's precisely that way -- "You're stupid and you need someone to tell you how things really are." While I have never seen it articulated with that precision, I can infer it from the way many Buddhists teach -- from their impatience, from the way they feel offended when people don't unquestioningly submit, from the threats of karmic retribution they make if one doesn't think, feel, speak, and do as they want.
In fact, listening to Western Buddhists, I often have the impression that I am listening to a Christian, it's just that the names are different.
Buddhism proposes that all humans are basically deluded, but are equipped with the capacity to know "how things really are."
This will need some elaboration!
Christians, for example, too, sometimes say that all humans are basically deluded, but are equipped with the capacity to know how things really are -- and that the how things really are is Jesus Christ, and that if your efforts to know how things really are don't conclude in the conviction that Jesus is the answer, then you're still deluded.
And something similar in Buddhism -- "you're deluded, you have the capacity to know how things really are, but if you don't come to see that we are right, you're still deluded."
It's the same pattern -- in both cases, it is proposed that there are absolute facts (especially in religious matters) which exist separately from how people cognize them.