Why do you keep up bringing views?Malcolm wrote: ↑Fri Jan 05, 2018 6:47 pmNeti neti is most definitely an affirming negation. What does it affirm? The Upanishadic atman. The Buddha refutes this atman.fuki wrote: ↑Fri Jan 05, 2018 6:39 pm
I understand your concern but neti neti is non-affirmative, that is if understood and practised correctly. But it is not my intention to confuse, for myself practising under Ch'an and vendata systems the practise is the same, the "view" I have no business with, just the expedients and the outcome of practise.
Which atman does the Buddha not refute? The conventional atman imputed upon the five aggregates.
The view of Chan and Vedanta cannot be the same. It is quite impossible.
Study under a vendata (the right one) teacher for a few years and then tell me "non-dwelling" practise either is Buddhist or "Hindu"
It is not that the wise spend there days thinking "not this or not that" self or no-self, I am the body-mind, not the body-mind, that is merely the practise of prisoners.
neti neti is the same antidote or prerequisite method for "beginners" as "don't know" again if instructed and taught proparly, its medicine nothing else.