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Moved this thread out of the Tibetan forum as the program appears to have a broader scope than just Tibetan Buddhism and may be of interest to others.
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Anyone else get this email? 29.95 A month for, I guess, unlimited access to teachings from it looks like mostly Western teachers of Vajrayana such as Thurman, Wallace etc., even saw a Bonpo teacher in there..in concert with Wisdom publications.

If I'm reading it right it seems like an interesting model that we haven't seen yet in online teachings, flat monthly fee for a bunch of courses.

What do you think of this model?
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I am considering joining it.

I'm engage in other on-line spiritual training. It seems like it could work.
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Cinnabar wrote: Wed Aug 21, 2019 9:11 pm I am considering joining it.

I'm engage in other on-line spiritual training. It seems like it could work.
It's not a bad idea tbh. I've done a few online courses I really got a lot out of, depending on the offerings, this could be astronomically cheaper. They also state it's a non profit that will be putting the money back into maintaining teachings.
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I haven't recived that email, but there is so many free videos online already.
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Is there a link to this? I have googled it and founded a Wisdom publ. Site but courses are priced individually.
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philji wrote: Wed Aug 21, 2019 9:42 pm Is there a link to this? I have googled it and founded a Wisdom publ. Site but courses are priced individually.
I just got it in an email, it looks like a new service.
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I got it, too.

The join button at the bottom took me here:

https://wisdomexperience.org/the-wisdom-experience/

Not sure if that is a unique pass.
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Mingyur Rinpoche's Vajrayana Online has the same model of a flat fee every month for access to a bunch of courses, along with a forum and monthly webinars with instructors and sometimes Rinpoche himself. I find the format pretty cool, especially since they have a couple of ongoing courses all the time which you can follow along "live" with other students.
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LolCat wrote: Wed Aug 21, 2019 10:36 pm Mingyur Rinpoche's Vajrayana Online has the same model of a flat fee every month for access to a bunch of courses, along with a forum and monthly webinars with instructors and sometimes Rinpoche himself. I find the format pretty cool, especially since they have a couple of ongoing courses all the time which you can follow along "live" with other students.
My wife has been doing the wisdom life program for the last few months,pretty sure the one she is doing is free. she listens to the meditations on her phone and then every few months or so gets together with a group to meditate and discuss. I think Mingyur Rinpoche has done a very good job with online programs, I didn't even know they had another online course.
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$30/month for Wisdom Academy online courses sounds like a really good deal. I took a course there a while back, found it well prepared and delivered, though the forum activity was minimal, which I found disappointing. The only potential danger I see <assuming the teachers get it right> is the All You Can Eat Buffet trap, where you glut yourself on all the shiny courses you have access to and end up with a dharmic stomachache.

Vajrayana Online is more expensive: $50/month. Unless you go for the "assistance" fee of $25.
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Hi,

This is a new initiative from Wisdom. I’m happy to answer any questions you all might have about the program. Let me know.

Cheers,
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Johnny Dangerous wrote: Wed Aug 21, 2019 9:06 pm29.95 A month for, I guess, unlimited access to teachings from it looks like mostly Western teachers of Vajrayana such as Thurman, Wallace etc., even saw a Bonpo teacher in there..in concert with Wisdom publications.
I just found out from Wisdom that the $30/month gives you access to most, but not all the courses they offer. For example, only the first of Garfield's three courses on Buddhist philosophy is accessible. Moral of the story: Read the fine print.
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Daniel Aitken wrote: Thu Aug 22, 2019 1:17 am Hi,

This is a new initiative from Wisdom. I’m happy to answer any questions you all might have about the program. Let me know.

Cheers,
Daniel.
Thanks for being here to answer question Daniel.

I'm just wondering how "tiered" it's going to be. On Rick's point, I'm wondering if some more in-depth stuff will not be covered by the $30 per month, and if so, what sort of content ends up in that category.
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Johnny Dangerous wrote: Thu Aug 22, 2019 6:04 pm
Daniel Aitken wrote: Thu Aug 22, 2019 1:17 am Hi,

This is a new initiative from Wisdom. I’m happy to answer any questions you all might have about the program. Let me know.

Cheers,
Daniel.
Thanks for being here to answer question Daniel.

I'm just wondering how "tiered" it's going to be. On Rick's point, I'm wondering if some more in-depth stuff will not be covered by the $30 per month, and if so, what sort of content ends up in that category.
Hi JD,

Thanks for the question.

We are trying to make as many of our courses available as possible to Wisdom Experience members. There are some limitations, for example, we want to make sure the instructors are remunerated fairly, and that Wisdom can cover our production costs. This is why new courses are not immediately available. Also, Jay's three-part series is worth nearly $450 and so we have only added part one to the collection of available course at the $29.95 a month / $299 a year price. But here are some of the courses you have access to at the moment:

Buddhist Philosophy Part 1 with Jay Garfield
Open Mind with B. Alan Wallace
Cultivating Emotional Balance with B. Alan Wallace and Eve Ekman
The Three Turnings of the Wheel of Dharma with Jay Garfield and Guy Newland
The Four Applications of Mindfulness with B. Alan Wallace
The Dharma of Social and Ecological Engagement with David R. Loy
Shamatha: Meditation for Balanced Living with B. Alan Wallace
Sutra and Tantra: The Profound and Miraculous with Robert Thurman
Shamatha and Vipashyana in the Dzogchen Tradition with B. Alan Wallace
Buddhism: One Teacher, Many Traditions with Ven. Thubten Chodron
Restricted Dzogchen Teachings (series of 4 courses) with B. Alan Wallace

The membership not only gives you access to our courses, but we also have Buddhist films (adding more each month), and you can also read many of our books online. And coming soon for members is the Wisdom Lecture Series which is a new course format shorter than the Wisdom Academy. Guests will include Barry Magid, Malcolm Smith, and Bob Thurman to name a few.

We think the membership is extremely good value. We can only do this because Wisdom is a non-profit organization and even still we will only be able to open the all-access membership up for new members a couple of times a year.

I hope that answers some of your questions.

And, also please feel free to direct any questions about Wisdom Academy/ Wisdom Experience to community[at]Wisdompubs.org or use the chat feature on wisdomexperience.com.

Thank you for all your support!

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If all my disposable income wasn't going to other Dharma stuff already, I'd hop on just for the B. Allan Wallace courses, it definitely seems like a decent amount of stuff.
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Daniel Aitken wrote: Thu Aug 22, 2019 7:57 pm Thank you for all your support!
Thank you for coming on the site!

I'd like to invite you to stick around and make some more posts here. This site has a far reach among the english speaking buddhist world, and many users, like myself found this site by putting various terms into search engines.

I understand you have been an fpmt student for some time, you can use the search on the top of the page to find topics you may be interested in. We'd all be very happy for you to share any insight. (if someone asks a question about a certain thing....."wisdom published this book with a whole chapter on that....")

Anyways, please feel free to let us know about anything new that Wisdom Pubs has coming out.

Thank you
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Agreed, it would be great to have you here!
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Fortyeightvows wrote: Thu Aug 22, 2019 10:24 pm
Daniel Aitken wrote: Thu Aug 22, 2019 7:57 pm Thank you for all your support!
Thank you for coming on the site!

I'd like to invite you to stick around and make some more posts here. This site has a far reach among the english speaking buddhist world, and many users, like myself found this site by putting various terms into search engines.

I understand you have been an fpmt student for some time, you can use the search on the top of the page to find topics you may be interested in. We'd all be very happy for you to share any insight. (if someone asks a question about a certain thing....."wisdom published this book with a whole chapter on that....")

Anyways, please feel free to let us know about anything new that Wisdom Pubs has coming out.

Thank you
Hi, thanks for the invitation. You all have created an incredible resource here at Dharma Wheel. I'd love to spend some more time here and I will certainly enjoy joining in on some of the discussions.

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Johnny Dangerous wrote: Thu Aug 22, 2019 10:13 pm If all my disposable income wasn't going to other Dharma stuff already, I'd hop on just for the B. Allan Wallace courses, it definitely seems like a decent amount of stuff.
I was going to sign up for a Wallace course, but decided to hold out for this. I've just signed up. I'll let you know how it goes.
Rick wrote: Wed Aug 21, 2019 11:33 pm $30/month for Wisdom Academy online courses sounds like a really good deal. I took a course there a while back, found it well prepared and delivered, though the forum activity was minimal, which I found disappointing. The only potential danger I see <assuming the teachers get it right> is the All You Can Eat Buffet trap, where you glut yourself on all the shiny courses you have access to and end up with a dharmic stomachache.

Vajrayana Online is more expensive: $50/month. Unless you go for the "assistance" fee of $25.
I would not look at it as buying courses as much as donating to the dharma. I would wager that if some one could truly not even afford the $25 a month, they would lower or waive the fee. Others may choose to donate more to help pay for others. Mingur Rinpoche and the Tergar community are some of the most bodhisattva folks I have encountered.

I went to one dharma center where they literally barred the door with a table and locked other entries to ensure no one entered without payment (although they would also make exceptions).
"The essence of meditation practice is to let go of all your expectations about meditation. All the qualities of your natural mind -- peace, openness, relaxation, and clarity -- are present in your mind just as it is. You don't have to do anything different. You don't have to shift or change your awareness. All you have to do while observing your mind is to recognize the qualities it already has."
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Matt J wrote: Sat Aug 24, 2019 6:31 pm I went to one dharma center where they literally barred the door with a table and locked other entries to ensure no one entered without payment (although they would also make exceptions).
I’m sure that was a Tibetan Buddhism center.
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