Tiantai in East Asia

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Tiantai in East Asia

Post by Tatsuo » Sun Dec 17, 2017 9:10 am

Hello everyone,

I was wondering about the state of Tiantai practices and studies in East Asia, apart from Japanese Tendai. In Korea, Cheontae (http://www.cheontae.org/) seems to be quite active. They have their own university (though it is probably rather small) and they have several large temples throughout the country. How about China, Taiwan, and Vietnam? Is there a modern Tiantai school with its own practices, temples, and study institutes? Or is Tiantai mostly a subject of scholars interested in religious history and it’s texts studied only by few Chan monks? I read, that Guoqing Temple is mostly a tourist site now and not a vibrant center of Buddhism anymore.

I hope we can discuss this more or share articles about modern Tiantai.

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Re: Tiantai in East Asia

Post by Malcolm » Sun Dec 17, 2017 5:58 pm

Tatsuo wrote:
Sun Dec 17, 2017 9:10 am
Hello everyone,

I was wondering about the state of Tiantai practices and studies in East Asia, apart from Japanese Tendai. In Korea, Cheontae (http://www.cheontae.org/) seems to be quite active. They have their own university (though it is probably rather small) and they have several large temples throughout the country. How about China, Taiwan, and Vietnam? Is there a modern Tiantai school with its own practices, temples, and study institutes? Or is Tiantai mostly a subject of scholars interested in religious history and it’s texts studied only by few Chan monks? I read, that Guoqing Temple is mostly a tourist site now and not a vibrant center of Buddhism anymore.

I hope we can discuss this more or share articles about modern Tiantai.

:anjali:
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Re: Tiantai in East Asia

Post by ItsRaining » Mon Dec 18, 2017 2:33 am

Tatsuo wrote:
Sun Dec 17, 2017 9:10 am
Hello everyone,

I was wondering about the state of Tiantai practices and studies in East Asia, apart from Japanese Tendai. In Korea, Cheontae (http://www.cheontae.org/) seems to be quite active. They have their own university (though it is probably rather small) and they have several large temples throughout the country. How about China, Taiwan, and Vietnam? Is there a modern Tiantai school with its own practices, temples, and study institutes? Or is Tiantai mostly a subject of scholars interested in religious history and it’s texts studied only by few Chan monks? I read, that Guoqing Temple is mostly a tourist site now and not a vibrant center of Buddhism anymore.

I hope we can discuss this more or share articles about modern Tiantai.

:anjali:
Tiantai is still active in China, there was a pretty successful revival in the Republican era, though I don't think there is too many resources on it in English. There are also quite a few YouTube channels from Tiantai temples based in Hongkong.

https://www.youtube.com/user/buddhismnet/featured

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Re: Tiantai in East Asia

Post by Tatsuo » Mon Dec 18, 2017 3:51 am

The revival in the Republican Era is really interesting. Do you know more about it? It seems like it was initiated by a monk named Dixian and there is a dissertation about him online, but it is not for free (https://m.dissertationtopic.net/doc/1909585). Dixian had a disciple, Tan Xu (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tan_Xu), who went to Hong Kong in 1949 to become the first president of the Hong Kong Buddhist Association. So there seems to be some connection between modern Tiantai and Hong Kong. I wonder if it is an institutionally independent school (in the sense of Japanese sects (宗派, shūha)).

I also found this website (http://www.tiantaizong.com). I cannot read Chinese too well but it looks like an official website of Tiantaizong in Taizhou, Zhejiang.
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Re: Tiantai in East Asia

Post by crazy-man » Mon Dec 18, 2017 10:41 am

The Revival of Tiantai Buddhism in the Late Ming
https://www.google.de/url?sa=t&rct=j&q= ... WlUYP7eX-E

Praying for the Republic: Buddhist Education, Student-Monks, and Citizenship in Modern China (1911-1949)
http://digitool.library.mcgill.ca/R/?fu ... EN01-MCG02
https://www.google.de/url?sa=t&rct=j&q= ... EUQr9rCIpl
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Re: Tiantai in East Asia

Post by Tatsuo » Mon Dec 18, 2017 11:02 am

Thank you for those articles :twothumbsup: the second link doesn’t seem to work though

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Re: Tiantai in East Asia

Post by Queequeg » Tue Dec 19, 2017 9:56 pm

Malcolm wrote:
Sun Dec 17, 2017 5:58 pm
Tatsuo wrote:
Sun Dec 17, 2017 9:10 am
Hello everyone,

I was wondering about the state of Tiantai practices and studies in East Asia, apart from Japanese Tendai. In Korea, Cheontae (http://www.cheontae.org/) seems to be quite active. They have their own university (though it is probably rather small) and they have several large temples throughout the country. How about China, Taiwan, and Vietnam? Is there a modern Tiantai school with its own practices, temples, and study institutes? Or is Tiantai mostly a subject of scholars interested in religious history and it’s texts studied only by few Chan monks? I read, that Guoqing Temple is mostly a tourist site now and not a vibrant center of Buddhism anymore.

I hope we can discuss this more or share articles about modern Tiantai.

:anjali:
Been reading the the Swanson book, it's influence on Zen is immediately evident.
Curiosity - which Swanson book?
Those who, even with distracted minds,
Entered a stupa compound
And chanted but once, “Namo Buddhaya!”
Have certainly attained the path of the buddhas.

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Re: Tiantai in East Asia

Post by Queequeg » Tue Dec 19, 2017 9:58 pm

crazy-man wrote:
Mon Dec 18, 2017 10:41 am
The Revival of Tiantai Buddhism in the Late Ming
https://www.google.de/url?sa=t&rct=j&q= ... WlUYP7eX-E

Praying for the Republic: Buddhist Education, Student-Monks, and Citizenship in Modern China (1911-1949)
http://digitool.library.mcgill.ca/R/?fu ... EN01-MCG02
https://www.google.de/url?sa=t&rct=j&q= ... EUQr9rCIpl
CM, how do you find all these articles and resources?
Those who, even with distracted minds,
Entered a stupa compound
And chanted but once, “Namo Buddhaya!”
Have certainly attained the path of the buddhas.

-Lotus Sutra, Expedient Means Chapter

I think each human being has things to find out in his own life that are inescapable. They’ll find them out the easy way or the hard way, or whatever.
-Jerry Garcia

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Re: Tiantai in East Asia

Post by crazy-man » Wed Dec 20, 2017 2:58 am

Queequeg wrote:
Tue Dec 19, 2017 9:58 pm
CM, how do you find all these articles and resources?
by using internet searchengines. if I'm interested in the topics, I'm looking for something longer..;-)

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