Yun Men Master, Guo Gu Roshi, a simple question:

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Re: Yun Men Master, Guo Gu Roshi, a simple question:

Post by bokki » Tue Oct 02, 2018 8:44 pm

i would like to thank you all, thinking about this or taking it up shows a lot of care as to the words of old masters, like Yunmen, and a respect for Guo Gu Roshis bringing it up.
Is it really just an effort from master Yunmen to change the monks view as to the god like image of buddha? or to even , make a distinction between a everything is a buddha, and the teachings are the buddha..?
i am well aware that respected masters said that chewing on sayings, is like being doused by a bucket of puss...
so, why are they used?
why are they brought up, questioned and finally taken to the dokusan room, to answer this koan to the teacher?

so, im sorry, if one would be called to sanzen, with a roshi, would one say, ... buddha is a shitstick
?
buddha is a dry turd?
or, Yunmen is only liberating a monk from attachments?

well, im not sure those answers would suffice.
imo, if one does embody the buddha in action, he may just as well spill a few words that show it.
so, probably, Yunmen still remains a mystery, lol, just as 3 pounds of flax, but then, imo, thats just the way it is.
thank you again, friends, ..
hey, and finally,
maybe Guo Gu R could ask a few more questions as to show the direction this koan has,
that would be a present.
thnx!

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Re: Yun Men Master, Guo Gu Roshi, a simple question:

Post by bokki » Tue Nov 20, 2018 12:29 pm

well, and good..ill repost from our brother site, mason:

then, a bit of inspiration comes, i will not say its good, but it is free to say, why not:

mason:
Originally there is not a single thing.
Just pure mind and pure things.
Pure mind and pure things are not things;
Pure mind is not mind.

The self has never been anything
But an arrow to be removed.
What arises are vexations,
Don't give rise.

The mind does not flow with things
Nor does it get stuck.
It sits in the middle, uncaring, unceasing,
A deathless peace for all to attain.

It is nothing special,
Nor is it everyday tea and meals.
The ordinary mind is deluded;
Original mind is truly ordinary.

Do not be a person, do not be a thing,
Just relax and trust your nature.
There is nothing to fear, just ghosts in the cave;
Here, birth has been conquered.


well, id add some, but this is good, b

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Re: Yun Men Master, Guo Gu Roshi, a simple question:

Post by bokki » Sat Nov 24, 2018 1:14 pm

but, say, originally there is not a single thing..
ok, ye..lol
just pure mind and pure things...lol. ok


how many things, lol...

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Re: Yun Men Master, Guo Gu Roshi, a simple question:

Post by White Lotus » Sat Nov 24, 2018 2:19 pm

It is nothing special,
Nor is it everyday tea and meals.
The ordinary mind is deluded;
Original mind is truly ordinary.
it is because it is nothing special that it is so special.
not only is it everyday tea and meals. it is also a piece of dried shit.
it is all things and yet no thing. dharmakaya.
the ordinary mind is deluded until it realizes that it is the true sight of enlightenment.
ordinary mind is the way. ordinary mind is enlightenment. not everyone sees this.
the original mind is truly ordinary because the original mind is the ordinary mind.

with or without experience of a self, the ordinary original mind has always been and
always will be the ordinary original mind. just so. stop speculating about it
and just see, hear, taste, touch and smell. if you understand this you understand.
that's all. if you don't understand this you don't understand. that's all. it doesn't matter
you are Bokki. that's what matters. the original, uncontrived, natural pure Bokki.
whether or not you see a self is not important. Bokki is Bokki.

rgds, Tom.
in any matters of importance. dont rely on me. i may not know what i am talking about. take what i say as mere speculation. i am not ordained. nor do i have a formal training. i do believe though that if i am wrong on any point. there are those on this site who i hope will quickly point out my mistakes.

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Re: Yun Men Master, Guo Gu Roshi, a simple question:

Post by SunWuKong » Tue Apr 09, 2019 5:34 am

bokki wrote:
Sun Sep 30, 2018 7:33 pm
Yun Men Master, Guo Gu Roshi, a simple question:

a student of the way asked yunmen, “what is buddha?”
yunmen replied, “dried shitstick.”

what do you all think?
guo gu
from a brother site..

soo , would you say something, in reply, what do you think????
This dip-shit question the student is asking. He thinks he is clever and has found a way out of his shit-hole koan. He's still no closer to knowing what is Buddha. Yunmen is being a bastard, not giving an inch in reply. Maybe he's having a shitty day too.
"We are magical animals that roam" ~ Roam

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Re: Yun Men Master, Guo Gu Roshi, a simple question:

Post by bokki » Fri May 03, 2019 10:23 pm

Erick, i like your resoning. Bu t to say Buddha is a shit stick sjit?
Ok, all know ,life aint prety. Bro, that is not any nearer to an answer. So
.
...
Lay it out..
Say it..
Or, else, its just another yunmen koan stupiditi,,,a foolish game

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Re: Yun Men Master, Guo Gu Roshi, a simple question:

Post by SunWuKong » Sat May 04, 2019 12:22 am

bokki wrote:
Fri May 03, 2019 10:23 pm
Erick, i like your resoning. Bu t to say Buddha is a shit stick sjit?
Ok, all know ,life aint prety. Bro, that is not any nearer to an answer. So
.
...
Lay it out..
Say it..
Or, else, its just another yunmen koan stupiditi,,,a foolish game
oh i think for some of us a shit-stick penetrates to the truth better than the average stick, who is to blame?
(does that mean what is pointed with is as good as what is pointed at?)
I have no thoughts about yunmen, maybe he holds a grudge against hinayana monks
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Re: Yun Men Master, Guo Gu Roshi, a simple question:

Post by KeithA » Sat May 04, 2019 4:41 am

bokki wrote:
Sun Sep 30, 2018 7:33 pm
Yun Men Master, Guo Gu Roshi, a simple question:

a student of the way asked yunmen, “what is buddha?”
yunmen replied, “dried shitstick.”

what do you all think?
guo gu
from a brother site..

soo , would you say something, in reply, what do you think????
Things come and go...

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Re: Yun Men Master, Guo Gu Roshi, a simple question:

Post by Dan74 » Sat May 04, 2019 3:05 pm

Dry shit-stick, the master's staff or the Buddha who is it that differentiates?

This, this, this, this.. and this.

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Re: Yun Men Master, Guo Gu Roshi, a simple question:

Post by SunWuKong » Sat May 04, 2019 4:15 pm

why is it that i say "Goo-goo" instead of Guo Gu Roshi ?

:spy:
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Re: Yun Men Master, Guo Gu Roshi, a simple question:

Post by bokki » Sun May 05, 2019 7:17 am

Ok ,lets close this, plz...il be banned again.mi dont mind...went to far,, i suppose

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Re: Yun Men Master, Guo Gu Roshi, a simple question:

Post by bokki » Sun May 05, 2019 7:25 am

Bcs u r a legit nice beautifull person? Ye, its hard, .but.. Doing good...goo goo..lol..but,truly..he is top..top..love you goo goo

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Re: Yun Men Master, Guo Gu Roshi, a simple question:

Post by bokki » Sun May 05, 2019 3:26 pm

Keith! How nice to hear from you! Oh, old dof, imso plesed! Ok..you know..ill strexh it a bit..how many things come and go?

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