Wall Gazing

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Re: Wall Gazing

Post by bokki » Sun Nov 26, 2017 11:24 am

LOL!
that is just d best gif i saw! LOL! ever!
lol, i just love cats!
thnx Azaelis!
....
master and margarita,bulgakov
LOL
pure puer!
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Re: Wall Gazing

Post by dharmadhope » Sun Nov 26, 2017 3:59 pm

:thumbsup:

and so who are you, after all?

I am part of the power which forever wills evil and
forever works good.

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Re: Wall Gazing

Post by dharmadhope » Mon Nov 27, 2017 4:25 am

(goethe: faust)

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Re: Wall Gazing

Post by SunWuKong » Sun Dec 03, 2017 2:38 am

What I like about Zen is that everything can be summed up in its entirety precisely by saying nothing at all.



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Re: Wall Gazing

Post by MattiV » Mon Feb 05, 2018 5:01 pm

When I started practicing zazen about two and a half years ago, I started with wall gazing right away. It felt like such a cool idea and I didn't have a teacher to tell me 'no, you can't do it'. I don't have elaborate philosophical reasons for this particular form of practice, I just practice it.

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Re: Wall Gazing

Post by Malcolm » Mon Feb 05, 2018 6:06 pm

Astus wrote:
Wed Sep 21, 2011 8:44 am
In Bodhidharma's case "wall gazing" likely meant not a physical posture but maintaining the mind like a wall, that is, without discrimination or attachment to emotions and ideas.
According to the Tibetan translation of Bodhidharma's account, the Chinese term "facing a wall" is translated as "Facing reality."
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Re: Wall Gazing

Post by clyde » Thu Mar 22, 2018 3:39 am

Malcolm; I remember you sharing the Tibetan translation of “facing a wall” (“facing reality”) many years ago and it’s stuck with me. Thank you.
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Re: Wall Gazing

Post by bokki » Tue Jul 17, 2018 7:54 pm

oh, hi Clyde!
so good to see you!
ugh, have you been edited?
LOL
mods karma, my friend, lol

very , very happy to see you here.
thank you Clyde,
for much of the wisdom you share.
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Re: Wall Gazing

Post by Mantrik » Tue Jul 17, 2018 10:40 pm

bokki wrote:
Thu Nov 23, 2017 10:50 am
sirs, ill just chime in a bit here...
im from soto, but that does not mean i know something, or have a valid view..
of a wall, LOL

wall gazing is just another description of soto shikantaza..
4 example, just sitting...
just sit? do not breath? dont notice when the tanto is whacking you?

just sit? lol, ull be sensing what ur neighbor sitter is not only doing, but thinking..!
the left and right one!
and the whole zendo, too,
untill u samadhi out, and they have to wake u up..

just sit?
lol, ur liver, spine and lungs will not just sit!
they will help u 2 stay alive!
so.. so many strange words and ideas..lol

anyway, wall gazing, is not wall gazing ,
but resting the eyes on a particular spot on the wall,
...
i cant and will not go on.
samadhi is the reason, but methods are many.

i was severely reprimanded for holding my hands in a different
manner, not soto mudra, but a fist mudra.
what?
so touchy, full of tradition! many, many strange things, but well, thats how it is.

so, if u call it wall gazing, or just sitting, lol, i bow 2 u!

just don't think ill buy into such..w o r d s
...well.
4 me ""just sitting", ""wall gazing"" are just an unlucky choice of words.

just DO NOT listen 2 me, plz. thnx
I think I would notice if a TANTO was whacking me, yes. The ones we used were sharp enough to shave with. I would prefer to arise, disarm and settle back into seiza without disturbing my contemplation. Odd Zendo you attended.... did you also sit on a wakazashi cushion?
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Re: Wall Gazing

Post by Meido » Tue Jul 17, 2018 11:45 pm

Mantrik wrote:
Tue Jul 17, 2018 10:40 pm
I think I would notice if a TANTO was whacking me, yes. The ones we used were sharp enough to shave with. I would prefer to arise, disarm and settle back into seiza without disturbing my contemplation. Odd Zendo you attended.... did you also sit on a wakazashi cushion?
Different tanto. He's referring to a role in the zendo, a senior practitioner.

I like your version better though.
It is relatively easy to accomplish the important matter of insight into one’s true nature, but uncommonly difficult to function freely and clearly [according to this understanding], in motion and in rest, in good and in adverse circumstances. Please make strenuous and vigorous efforts towards this end, otherwise all the teachings of Buddhas and patriarchs become mere empty words. - Torei

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Re: Wall Gazing

Post by bokki » Wed Jul 18, 2018 12:44 am

Meido Roshi, so
very , very nice to see you!
i will always bow to you, please note that!


Mantrik, very good words.
well..
on my first seshin, the short kyosaku was brokken on my back..
why was that?
see, look,
after , we even bowed , to have a bit of kyosaku..
why was that?
sir, my zendo is non of ur business
i sat on a zafu and zabuton, at home i sat on all kinds of stuff

Sir, what do you sit on?.

i mean,
UGH, OK
ill try to be more silent..
hmm..if possible..lol
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