Author of Lujin

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Author of Lujin

Postby Knotty Veneer » Thu Apr 12, 2012 1:59 pm

I have seen the text of the Kagyu daily Chod practice or Lujin variously attributed to the XIV Karmapa Thekchok Dorje (Lama Lodo), Karma Chakme (Sarah Harding) or Lodro Thaye (Tenga Rinpoche). I understand that a lot of it is compiled from the work of the III Karmapa Rangjung Dorje but who was the actual author/compiler? Anyone know?
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Re: Author of Lujin

Postby Malcolm » Thu Apr 12, 2012 2:13 pm

Knotty Veneer wrote:I have seen the text of the Kagyu daily Chod practice or Lujin variously attributed to the XIV Karmapa Thekchok Dorje (Lama Lodo), Karma Chakme (Sarah Harding) or Lodro Thaye (Tenga Rinpoche). I understand that a lot of it is compiled from the work of the III Karmapa Rangjung Dorje but who was the actual author/compiler? Anyone know?



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Re: Author of Lujin

Postby Knotty Veneer » Thu Apr 12, 2012 3:00 pm

So you're saying the Lujin was initially compiled by Karma Chagme from the works of the III Karmapa and then further edited by the XIV Karmapa and Jamgon Kongtrul. So the original compiler is Karma Chagme but the version we use today in the Karma Kagyu is probably that of Jamgon Kongtrul Lodro Thaye?
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Re: Author of Lujin

Postby Malcolm » Thu Apr 12, 2012 3:06 pm

Knotty Veneer wrote:So you're saying the Lujin was initially compiled by Karma Chagme from the works of the III Karmapa and then further edited by the XIV Karmapa and Jamgon Kongtrul. So the original compiler is Karma Chagme but the version we use today in the Karma Kagyu is probably that of Jamgon Kongtrul Lodro Thaye?


Yup. And very likely, Karma Chagme was not the original compiler.
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Re: Author of Lujin

Postby conebeckham » Thu Apr 12, 2012 3:33 pm

Kongtrul put together the text you're referring to, from the other sources you've mentioned.
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སྐལ་ལྡན་ལས་འཕྲོ་ཅན་གྱིས་རྟོགས་པ་སྟེ།
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