Turkey practices?

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Turkey practices?

Post by Tenma » Sat Nov 18, 2017 3:55 am

Thanksgiving is about to come up, what practices are we to do to liberate all these turkeys? Sorry for spamming, but I'm trying to find out the Mahayana way of liberation for these sentient beings.

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Re: Turkey practices?

Post by jkarlins » Sat Nov 18, 2017 4:10 am

good question- some thoughts

tonglen
liberate some other animals in their place
metta/4 immeasurables

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Re: Turkey practices?

Post by rory » Sat Nov 18, 2017 4:14 am

Easy do what I'm doing: eat a Celebration Vegan roast. Then I plan to go to my altar, burn incense chant Amida's name: nembutsu, and transfer the merit to the poor turkeys to be reborn in Amida's Pure Land.
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Re: Turkey practices?

Post by Adamantine » Sat Nov 18, 2017 4:28 am

I noticed at Pema Osel Ling they're doing an Amitabha Buddha Tsok puja dedicated to all the killed turkeys...
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Re: Turkey practices?

Post by Tenma » Sat Nov 18, 2017 4:35 am

Adamantine wrote:
Sat Nov 18, 2017 4:28 am
I noticed at Pema Osel Ling they're doing an Amitabha Buddha Tsok puja dedicated to all the killed turkeys...
Perfect! Let's join them! :twothumbsup:

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Post by Fortyeightvows » Sat Nov 18, 2017 4:42 am

Adamantine wrote:
Sat Nov 18, 2017 4:28 am
I noticed at Pema Osel Ling they're doing an Amitabha Buddha Tsok puja dedicated to all the killed turkeys...
I'd imagine they will be be buying and eating turkey too so....

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Re: Turkey practices?

Post by Tenma » Sat Nov 18, 2017 4:51 am

Fortyeightvows wrote:
Sat Nov 18, 2017 4:42 am
Adamantine wrote:
Sat Nov 18, 2017 4:28 am
I noticed at Pema Osel Ling they're doing an Amitabha Buddha Tsok puja dedicated to all the killed turkeys...
I'd imagine they will be be buying and eating turkey too so....
Better get the Milarepa mantra then.

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Re: Turkey practices?

Post by jkarlins » Sat Nov 18, 2017 5:14 am

OM MANI PEME HUNG works too for meat, as has been said in other threads

enjoy the feast

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Re: Turkey practices?

Post by Fortyeightvows » Sat Nov 18, 2017 6:46 am

I was at one of my favorite restaurants today picking up some food to take home and there was a nun sitting and eating with one layperson. I will often pay for monastics meals when I see them at restaurants or if they are close to me in line at the grocery store, but this place isn't vegetarian and has only a few vegetarian dishes. i asked the worker if the nun had ordered meat and he said yes. I shook my head and he said that he thought it was very bad. I think I agree, but i still paid for their meal.

I don't know what they take away from this is, but it happened today and this thread just reminded me.

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Re: Turkey practices?

Post by Tenma » Sat Nov 18, 2017 6:56 am

Fortyeightvows wrote:
Sat Nov 18, 2017 6:46 am
I was at one of my favorite restaurants today picking up some food to take home and there was a nun sitting and eating with one layperson. I will often pay for monastics meals when I see them at restaurants or if they are close to me in line at the grocery store, but this place isn't vegetarian and has only a few vegetarian dishes. i asked the worker if the nun had ordered meat and he said yes. I shook my head and he said that he thought it was very bad. I think I agree, but i still paid for their meal.

I don't know what they take away from this is, but it happened today and this thread just reminded me.
She probably used one of the meat mantras.

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Post by Lindama » Sat Nov 18, 2017 7:57 am

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Re: Turkey practices?

Post by seeker242 » Sat Nov 18, 2017 10:12 am

Eat tofu turkey instead of real turkeys. :smile:
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Re: Turkey practices?

Post by Simon E. » Sat Nov 18, 2017 10:51 am

Tenma wrote:
Sat Nov 18, 2017 3:55 am
Thanksgiving is about to come up, what practices are we to do to liberate all these turkeys? Sorry for spamming, but I'm trying to find out the Mahayana way of liberation for these sentient beings.

I try to avoid eating Turkey. I prefer beef or ..just about any other meat..
But for a Vajrayana practitioner, there are ways of influencing the mindstreams of any sentient being towards Realisation, including ones that are eaten.
These are not stand alone practices however..they require Refuge with a teacher.
"Any major dude with half a heart
Will surely tell you my friend,
Any minor world that breaks apart
Can fall together again.
Any major dude will tell you."

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Re: Turkey practices?

Post by MiphamFan » Sat Nov 18, 2017 10:56 am

Fortyeightvows wrote:
Sat Nov 18, 2017 6:46 am
I was at one of my favorite restaurants today picking up some food to take home and there was a nun sitting and eating with one layperson. I will often pay for monastics meals when I see them at restaurants or if they are close to me in line at the grocery store, but this place isn't vegetarian and has only a few vegetarian dishes. i asked the worker if the nun had ordered meat and he said yes. I shook my head and he said that he thought it was very bad. I think I agree, but i still paid for their meal.

I don't know what they take away from this is, but it happened today and this thread just reminded me.
So judgemental.

You are Singaporean right?

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Re: Turkey practices?

Post by Simon E. » Sat Nov 18, 2017 11:03 am

Fortyeightvows wrote:
Sat Nov 18, 2017 6:46 am
I was at one of my favorite restaurants today picking up some food to take home and there was a nun sitting and eating with one layperson. I will often pay for monastics meals when I see them at restaurants or if they are close to me in line at the grocery store, but this place isn't vegetarian and has only a few vegetarian dishes. i asked the worker if the nun had ordered meat and he said yes. I shook my head and he said that he thought it was very bad. I think I agree, but i still paid for their meal.

I don't know what they take away from this is, but it happened today and this thread just reminded me.
I sense that it's time to dust off my ( true) anecdote about the time that I shared a plate of chicken wings with HH. the Dalai Lama. At a reception given for him when he was the guest of the Dean of Westminster in London..
And before anyone says that he was just being polite, I will add that the meal was cooked by H.H.'s cooks who had taken over the kitchen.
"Any major dude with half a heart
Will surely tell you my friend,
Any minor world that breaks apart
Can fall together again.
Any major dude will tell you."

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Re: Turkey practices?

Post by jkarlins » Sat Nov 18, 2017 1:08 pm

bbq? buffalo? what level of spiciness? mahamudra meltdown? jalapeno-gini?

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Re: Turkey practices?

Post by PuerAzaelis » Sat Nov 18, 2017 3:50 pm

:idea:

Maybe we can start a petition to get President Trump to pardon the people instead of the turkey.
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Re: Turkey practices?

Post by Simon E. » Sat Nov 18, 2017 5:46 pm

jkarlins wrote:
Sat Nov 18, 2017 1:08 pm
bbq? buffalo? what level of spiciness? mahamudra meltdown? jalapeno-gini?
If memory serves it was like chicken from a good quality Chinese takeaway. But I will admit to being more occupied with thoughts like ' get me..eating with the Dalai Lama !' Than I was with the food.




:lol:
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Will surely tell you my friend,
Any minor world that breaks apart
Can fall together again.
Any major dude will tell you."

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Re: Turkey practices?

Post by Tenma » Sat Nov 18, 2017 9:40 pm

Simon E. wrote:
Sat Nov 18, 2017 5:46 pm
jkarlins wrote:
Sat Nov 18, 2017 1:08 pm
bbq? buffalo? what level of spiciness? mahamudra meltdown? jalapeno-gini?
If memory serves it was like chicken from a good quality Chinese takeaway. But I will admit to being more occupied with thoughts like ' get me..eating with the Dalai Lama !' Than I was with the food.




:lol:
Shame! Oh well, at least that chicken was liberated by Lord Chenrezig at least.

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Re: Turkey practices?

Post by Simon E. » Sun Nov 19, 2017 9:37 am

I don't doubt that.
"Any major dude with half a heart
Will surely tell you my friend,
Any minor world that breaks apart
Can fall together again.
Any major dude will tell you."

Steely Dan.

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