Enlightenment and then what?

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Re: Enlightenment and then what?

Postby Jesse » Thu Dec 12, 2013 4:11 pm

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Re: Enlightenment and then what?

Postby Arjan Dirkse » Thu Dec 12, 2013 6:34 pm

To me enlightenment is just freedom...freedom from delusion, craving. After that moment of discovering our enlightened nature I imagine life just goes on.

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Re: Enlightenment and then what?

Postby seeker242 » Thu Dec 12, 2013 7:44 pm

Snowid wrote:Enlightenment and then(after death) what? ;)
We have enlightenment when we are still alive.
With death ,our self is dead so,our enlightment also.


our ture self still exist after death, and we are still enlightened.

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Re: Enlightenment and then what?

Postby oushi » Fri Dec 13, 2013 8:04 am

Enlightenment and then what?

I think that this is the last thing to worry about.
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Re: Enlightenment and then what?

Postby Monlam Tharchin » Fri Dec 13, 2013 8:19 pm

oushi wrote:
Enlightenment and then what?

I think that this is the last thing to worry about.


People always want to know what the end is like before they start.
Some can't even stand not knowing how warm or cold it'll be tomorrow.
Try explaining what seeing is like to a person who's worn a blindfold their entire lives.
Anything you say will either make it sound like some complex process, or like total nonsense.
If they somehow manage to just take the blindfold off, they'll realize "oh! Now I see."
It's just something they have the natural capacity to do.

Before that, they might think seeing takes a great deal of straining, and maybe they can get even better eyeballs to see through walls and it must be so weird and how is it useful for everyday life and what do you even do with it, etc.
That's my impression, anyway.
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Re: Enlightenment and then what?

Postby wisdom » Sat Dec 14, 2013 4:46 am

Perhaps its like the Zen saying "Before enlightenment, chop wood carry water... after enlightenment, chop wood carry water."

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Re: Enlightenment and then what?

Postby Snovid » Sat Dec 14, 2013 10:56 am

Any spiritual practice is associated with temporality/mundane
if we assume that after the death of body
is not remain after us any component of our true eternal self
which can still experience the world and phenomena.

The tree bears fruit
fruits have seeds,grows out of them a new tree that is not a previous tree.

Trees do not practice anything because it does not make sense.

People practice
that is, there are two output

or we exist after death
then practice makes sense

religion and spiritual practices are a form of consolation
attempt to give life meaning.

For example:
We all die and will remain after us absolutely nothing
any consiousness, no presence, no activity,nothing.

But if you believe in reincarnation and the continued existence
then it is easier for you to die.

When we die then will not be anyone who would feel cheated.

So practice to make life easier
would have an easier life
would be happier living
after death you will not have the opportunity for anything :shrug:
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