The right Buddhism for me?

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The right Buddhism for me?

Post by Aduro » Thu Aug 28, 2014 9:32 pm

Buddhism seems to be vast in variations of ..practice. At least that it is how I have interpreted the many different types of Buddhism. What I would like from Buddhism is not entirely clear to me, other than emptying my mental cup. Where would someone such as myself start and which is the right school of buddhism for me? I have tried to read books on this subject but it just makes me more confused on the question stated in title. Any suggestions?

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Post by Grigoris » Thu Aug 28, 2014 9:34 pm

Are you the intellectual or the experiental type?

Do you value faith?

Do you like simplicity or complexity?

Movement or serenity?

How do you feel about prayer?

Ritual?

"Foreign" languages?
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Re: The right Buddhism for me?

Post by Aduro » Thu Aug 28, 2014 9:43 pm

Sherab Dorje wrote:Are you the intellectual or the experiental type.

Do you value faith?

Do you like simplicity or complexity?

Movement or serenity?
I am the experiential type.

I am unclear how I feel about faith.

I appreciate simplicity and complexity when they are in the right place.

I love serenity.

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Re: The right Buddhism for me?

Post by Aduro » Thu Aug 28, 2014 9:56 pm

Sherab Dorje wrote:
How do you feel about prayer?

Ritual?

"Foreign" languages?
I feel empty at prayer which leads me to wonder if I am doing it right.

I am often confused about rituals and ceremony and their difference and importance. In my fathers culture there seems to be a fine line between the two.

I speak English and some of my fathers first nation language.

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Post by Grigoris » Thu Aug 28, 2014 9:58 pm

Then I would recommend Chan or Zen Buddhism.
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Jetsun Milarepa 1052-1135 CE

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Re: The right Buddhism for me?

Post by Aduro » Thu Aug 28, 2014 10:04 pm

Sherab Dorje wrote:Then I would recommend Chan or Zen Buddhism.
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Post by DGA » Thu Aug 28, 2014 10:43 pm

Hi Aduro,

This is a good question. Sherab Dorje's advice is good. One thing that's important to be aware of: your needs and skills and attitudes will change over time as you practice and learn. For myself, at first I found the idea of sitting through a ritual of any kind to be worse than a bad visit to the dentist. Ten years later, I couldn't get enough of it, and ten years after that, I'm still enthusiastic as ever to attend any kind of Buddhist ritual. So what's good for you at the start may not be what's best for you over the long haul.

The best thing is to keep an open mind and an eagerness to learn. If you have these, then you'll be fine wherever you go.

Enjoy your travels.

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Post by Mkoll » Thu Aug 28, 2014 11:58 pm

Aduro wrote:I have tried to read books on this subject but it just makes me more confused on the question stated in title.
What exactly are you confused about?
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Post by Monlam Tharchin » Fri Aug 29, 2014 12:08 am

It may also be beneficial to read about the broadest Buddhist ideas that are common to all schools, such as The Noble Eightfold Path, and the Four Noble Truths.
Of consideration also is what centers/practice communities are physically near you?

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Post by Dan74 » Fri Aug 29, 2014 12:33 am

Aduro,

Where are you located? I'd suggest checking out some reputable centres/temples in your area. Chan/Zen/Seon Buddhism certainly values 'emptying your mental cup' and the story you seem to have in mind came from that tradition. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/101_Zen_Stories

But it can also be unsatisfying to the ego, because in true Zen teaching, there is nothing to grasp, to appropriate. So if one wants to get some validation, to learn a lot of things and go up a spiritual ladder, a good Zen centre is a bad place to go.

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Re: The right Buddhism for me?

Post by kirtu » Fri Aug 29, 2014 1:44 am

Aduro wrote: Where would someone such as myself start and which is the right school of buddhism for me? I have tried to read books on this subject but it just makes me more confused on the question stated in title. Any suggestions?
Hi Aduro! For me everything begins with Shakyamuni Buddha. So I would suggest at first reading about his life. Then I'd look around at various groups and see what I liked. This is what I did in fact. For various reasons I began Zen practice and then moved to Vajrayana. But take your time and work things out for you.

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Re: The right Buddhism for me?

Post by retrofuturist » Fri Aug 29, 2014 6:52 am

Greetings,
kirtu wrote: For me everything begins with Shakyamuni Buddha. So I would suggest at first reading about his life.
Good call. :thumbsup:

I found this book very good for that purpose... http://www.amazon.com/The-Life-Buddha-A ... 1928706126" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Post by LastLegend » Fri Aug 29, 2014 8:29 am

Aduro wrote:Buddhism seems to be vast in variations of ..practice. At least that it is how I have interpreted the many different types of Buddhism. What I would like from Buddhism is not entirely clear to me, other than emptying my mental cup. Where would someone such as myself start and which is the right school of buddhism for me? I have tried to read books on this subject but it just makes me more confused on the question stated in title. Any suggestions?

Thank you
What you want? I meant what is your goal?
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NAM MO A DI DA PHAT (VIETNAMESE)
NAMO AMITUOFO (CHINESE)

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―I come to the East to transmit this clear knowing mind without constructing any dharma―

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Re: The right Buddhism for me?

Post by Aduro » Fri Aug 29, 2014 9:00 am

Thank You all for the input given. I appreciate all responses. To answer a couple questions, confusion comes from overload. I learn best through experience. As for the other question, I would like to learn to empty my filled mental cup. What ever comes in the process of doing so would be welcome.

Thanks again

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Post by Kaccāni » Fri Aug 29, 2014 12:03 pm

Aduro wrote:What I would like from Buddhism is not entirely clear to me, other than emptying my mental cup.
What do you want to emtpy it for?
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Post by Johnny Dangerous » Fri Aug 29, 2014 5:04 pm

Aduro wrote:Thank You all for the input given. I appreciate all responses. To answer a couple questions, confusion comes from overload. I learn best through experience. As for the other question, I would like to learn to empty my filled mental cup. What ever comes in the process of doing so would be welcome.

Thanks again

I'd just visit some Sangha, meet some teachers, see what gels with you, and start meditating then. After a bit of that you might be able to find what tradition or philosophical school you're interested in. I say that only because of the overload comment..if the amount of stuff available is overload, it might be because it's time to experience some different things, then drill down what it is you are interested in.
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Re: The right Buddhism for me?

Post by Aduro » Sat Aug 30, 2014 9:17 am

Gwenn Dana wrote:
Aduro wrote:What I would like from Buddhism is not entirely clear to me, other than emptying my mental cup.
What do you want to emtpy it for?

Much to do with the three marks of existence.

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Re: The right Buddhism for me?

Post by Aduro » Sat Aug 30, 2014 9:23 am

Johnny Dangerous wrote:
Aduro wrote:Thank You all for the input given. I appreciate all responses. To answer a couple questions, confusion comes from overload. I learn best through experience. As for the other question, I would like to learn to empty my filled mental cup. What ever comes in the process of doing so would be welcome.

Thanks again

I'd just visit some Sangha, meet some teachers, see what gels with you, and start meditating then. After a bit of that you might be able to find what tradition or philosophical school you're interested in. I say that only because of the overload comment..if the amount of stuff available is overload, it might be because it's time to experience some different things, then drill down what it is you are interested in.
Thank you for the post/opinion. People have been very helpful on this forum.

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Re: The right Buddhism for me?

Post by dude » Sun Aug 31, 2014 3:33 am

Aduro wrote:Thank You all for the input given. I appreciate all responses. To answer a couple questions, confusion comes from overload. I learn best through experience. As for the other question, I would like to learn to empty my filled mental cup. What ever comes in the process of doing so would be welcome.

Thanks again
Just keep reading, and putting into practice what is appropriate.
Do that consistently and you will see results.

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