Flow, mindfulness, nondual awareness

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Re: Flow, mindfulness, nondual awareness

Post by Rick » Fri May 10, 2019 5:29 pm

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Fri May 10, 2019 5:02 pm
Have you looked at it <flow> from the perspective of kinesthetic memory? For example a jazz musician who bypasses mind and theory and whose fingers move as the heart moves?
Some types of flow would seem to rely heavily on kinaesthetic/muscle memory: skiing, playing a video game, performing a Beethoven sonata.

Some not, such as the type of flow that accompanies samatha meditation. Although I guess you could argue that the proprioception needed to maintain proper posture during samatha meditation involves muscle memory.

What do you think? Does some form of automatic behavior <autopilot> exist in most flow states?
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Re: Flow, mindfulness, nondual awareness

Post by SunWuKong » Fri May 10, 2019 10:40 pm

In terms of brain function, yes, there are several bypasses. One is the reflex action which only goes up the nerves and back out, it never reaches the brain until after or reactions have happened. Then back to the jazz player, he only hears music inside his head but his instrument plays it as fast as he hears it. Thats just his improvisational mental function and direct to hands from there. Samatha flows for a different reason. The mind connects to the "now" but the now is moving through time. If the mind is fixed on the now in samatha, it remains in one place, but the moments seamlessly progress. This produces a sensation of "flow" but its because the mind is impossibly recording stillness, and motion at the same time. Is that what you mean?
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