TharpaChodron wrote: ↑Thu Mar 15, 2018 2:42 am
But if samsara and nirvana are no different on the ultimate level, there is no where to go or to remain, right? The HHDL speaks on the conventional level to relate to his audience, but ultimately he knows for a Buddha there is no going or coming and no samsara or nirvana that is distinct from each other.
"no where to go or to remain" if you are enlightened (e.g. now or after death, "go to heaven" like his holiness the dalai lama of tibet said). but if you are not enlightened and subject to the first noble truth, the truth of suffering, there is (the very "real" illusion of) somewhere to go, rebirth...
...that is why this question is so interesting... ...to be reborn, according to the tibetan book of the dead, would mean, sadly, that in the dreamy chaos that arises after the dawning of the ground luminosity (shortly after 4 dissolutions/process of dying), that we have no idea what is going on - ignorant of that. we do not acknowledge that all that we see is our mind... so then comes this fundamental ignorance, attachment to self, and ultimately rebirth.
so what i am looking for, is to discuss with someone who would say that a true altruistic intention would motivate rebirth ("remain") as opposed to enlightenment (go way beyond, permeate all things without discrimination, etc...)
i dedicate this post to your happiness, the causes of your happiness, the absence of your suffering the causes of the absence of your suffering that we may not have too much attachment nor aversion. SAMAYAMANUPALAYA