I would say that as long as I have a body there will be a notion of self, not necessary a feeling of self. when the little flame of self is blown out and emptiness has flowed out into emptiness there is no longer a personal feeling... however there is still protecting and feeding the body.As long as you have the five skandha there will be a sense of self.
that is realising the selfless nature of all phenomena and of the individual as a direct experience.
I should take a look at Lojong.
Muni, I have been thinking about Nirvikalpajnana (non conceptual awareness). the problem is seen as Vikalpa (judgement/discrimination/conceptualism). Nir vikalpa being the absence of judgement. It seems that every word is a judgement and that all I say here is a judgement. a fabrication. truly all that we say misses the point, it is all inexpressible (being maya).
if I say that I have realised Nirvikalpajnana, that completely misses the point. however it can be fun! in my own opinion I think I probably haven't yet. I still think, but like you don't take my thinking very seriously. all thinking is judgement, Vikalpa/prapanca. delusion. we are thinking about a dream as though it was real.
it seems there are two great realisations: disappearance of self and nirvikalpa. nirvikalpa leads to a turning over of the basis of mind. (you can tell I have been reading the Lankavatara Sutra... which isn't strictly speaking Yogacara as some may think. Asanga and Vasubandu created Yogacara, not the Sutras.
now please forgive me if my speculations are entirely wrong, or even partially wrong. I am ignorant in such matters.
everything I have said above is a fabrication, a judgement and is only a finger pointing at the dream. if it doesn't help, chuck it!
Muni, you have said you are nothing and therefore everything... are you saying you are Maya? all I see is awareness. I cannot say I am nothing, nor anything other than awareness. the object is not seen, it cannot be grasped. it is maya. a dream. do you still see objects as seeing them? or do you not see objects except as shadows-like.
I will print out and consider what you have said Muni.
best wishes, Tom x