End of suffering

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End of suffering

Post by shanyin » Tue Aug 21, 2018 6:28 am

How can I attain the end of suffering for myself? I don't really care about other beings anymore and want to attain nirvana.

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Re: End of suffering

Post by Aryjna » Tue Aug 21, 2018 7:26 am

One option would be to switch to Hinayana, though this may not be applicable to someone who has already taken Bodhisattva vows. In the Hinayana compassion etc. are still important.
Bodhicaryavatara wrote: (129) All whosoever who are happy in the world
Are (so) through the wish for the happiness of others;
While all whosoever who are miserable in the world
Are (so) through the wish for the happiness of themselves.

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Re: End of suffering

Post by tomschwarz » Wed Aug 22, 2018 10:46 pm

shanyin wrote:
Tue Aug 21, 2018 6:28 am
How can I attain the end of suffering for myself? I don't really care about other beings anymore and want to attain nirvana.
Anymore? What happened? Do you play sports or any other extroverted activity, like theater, dance or music?
i dedicate this post to your happiness, the causes of your happiness, the absence of your suffering the causes of the absence of your suffering that we may not have too much attachment nor aversion. SAMAYAMANUPALAYA

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Re: End of suffering

Post by shanyin » Thu Aug 23, 2018 2:11 am

I do not do those activites. I think I am just frustrated with my own suffering and life style of indulging in video games, drugs and other sensual pleasues where I am left with no money and act irritated towards my family.

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Re: End of suffering

Post by Queequeg » Thu Aug 23, 2018 3:01 am

Man goes to the doctor, say, "doc, it hurts when I hit myself." Doctor says, "don't do that."

Your problems sound pretty superficial. (Insert first world problem memes).

Have you tried taking a break from the things that make you unhappy? That seems like the logical starting point.
Those who, even with distracted minds,
Entered a stupa compound
And chanted but once, “Namo Buddhaya!”
Have certainly attained the path of the buddhas.

-Lotus Sutra, Expedient Means Chapter

I think each human being has things to find out in his own life that are inescapable. They’ll find them out the easy way or the hard way, or whatever.
-Jerry Garcia

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Re: End of suffering

Post by shanyin » Thu Aug 23, 2018 3:56 am

Since your trying to help I might open up a bit. I go to the hospital in a cop car, wait 8 hours inside a tiny waiting room after putting on a hospital gown, am deemed a threat to myself or others, my parents come and don't say much then I am locked up in a psychiatric ward where I am put in seclution and told I can't leave until I sign a community treatment order. I have been dealing with this for years now and even when I am not on a CTO police come and bring me to the hospital and the process repeats. All I want to do with my life is meditate, watch tv, play video games, and not take the drugs that have recently caused me to be overweight and that are brain disabling.

I feel like I get into a psychological confusion with nearly every interaction I have with my parents. Which leads me to anger. I have caused ALOT of damage to my apartment by violently smashing my walls with my fist or smashing my kitchen with random items.

The only things I can think of that's making me unhappy are: Too much going out to get a coffee with parents, smashing my apartment, drinking in excess, chain smoking ciggarettes, spending all my money at the start of the month.

I find these hospitalizations kinda traumatic. I am literally put in there for months at a time.

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Re: End of suffering

Post by shanyin » Thu Aug 23, 2018 4:02 am

I know that is dwelling on the negative but I feel uncomfortable alot of the time and that is something that I think is linked. I use these Buddhist sites to some degree because you are wise caring. I know that you can't make medical recommendations so I won't ask for that.

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Re: End of suffering

Post by Crazywisdom » Thu Aug 23, 2018 5:17 am

shanyin wrote:
Tue Aug 21, 2018 6:28 am
How can I attain the end of suffering for myself? I don't really care about other beings anymore and want to attain nirvana.
Here you’re in Mahayana where this motivation receives the Rasberry award for worst attitude ever!
She glares menacingly at your corpse.

The criticisms of others are like wrathful mantras. Fast purification. Welcome it. -can’t remember who

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Re: End of suffering

Post by Queequeg » Thu Aug 23, 2018 3:37 pm

Woah. That is very different than,
shanyin wrote:
Thu Aug 23, 2018 2:11 am
life style of indulging in video games, drugs and other sensual pleasues where I am left with no money and act irritated towards my family.
What is your practice now? What is your connection to Buddhism?
Those who, even with distracted minds,
Entered a stupa compound
And chanted but once, “Namo Buddhaya!”
Have certainly attained the path of the buddhas.

-Lotus Sutra, Expedient Means Chapter

I think each human being has things to find out in his own life that are inescapable. They’ll find them out the easy way or the hard way, or whatever.
-Jerry Garcia

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Re: End of suffering

Post by Motova » Thu Aug 23, 2018 7:26 pm

You basically have to refine your view enough to renounce the desire realm and realize selflessness.
Malcolm wrote:
Fri Jan 24, 2014 3:58 pm
The four means of converting beings to the Dharma are generosity (which itself as four aspects: giving material gifts, conferring fearlessness, loving kindness and teaching Dharma), pleasant speech, conduct and setting an example.

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Re: End of suffering

Post by Motova » Thu Aug 23, 2018 8:41 pm

shanyin wrote:
Tue Aug 21, 2018 6:28 am
How can I attain the end of suffering for myself? I don't really care about other beings anymore and want to attain nirvana.
https://www.amazon.ca/Path-Purification ... rification

https://www.amazon.ca/Mindfulness-Bliss ... iss+beyond

https://www.amazon.ca/Comprehensive-Man ... abhidhamma

This is what you want.
Malcolm wrote:
Fri Jan 24, 2014 3:58 pm
The four means of converting beings to the Dharma are generosity (which itself as four aspects: giving material gifts, conferring fearlessness, loving kindness and teaching Dharma), pleasant speech, conduct and setting an example.

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Re: End of suffering

Post by shanyin » Fri Aug 24, 2018 3:56 am

Queequeg wrote:
Thu Aug 23, 2018 3:37 pm
Woah. That is very different than,
shanyin wrote:
Thu Aug 23, 2018 2:11 am
life style of indulging in video games, drugs and other sensual pleasues where I am left with no money and act irritated towards my family.
What is your practice now? What is your connection to Buddhism?
I try to do mindfulness of breathing and would like to learn vipassana meditation

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Re: End of suffering

Post by Emmet » Fri Aug 24, 2018 12:22 pm

The only nirvanas and hell realms which I am aware of are those which we create within our own minds, believe to be true, then proceed to inflict upon ourselves and each other.

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Re: End of suffering

Post by Aryjna » Fri Aug 24, 2018 12:35 pm

Emmet wrote:
Fri Aug 24, 2018 12:22 pm
The only nirvanas and hell realms which I am aware of are those which we create within our own minds, believe to be true, then proceed to inflict upon ourselves and each other.
These realms are equally real/unreal to your human body and surroundings in this life.

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Re: End of suffering

Post by Queequeg » Fri Aug 24, 2018 3:04 pm

shanyin wrote:
Fri Aug 24, 2018 3:56 am
Queequeg wrote:
Thu Aug 23, 2018 3:37 pm
Woah. That is very different than,
shanyin wrote:
Thu Aug 23, 2018 2:11 am
life style of indulging in video games, drugs and other sensual pleasues where I am left with no money and act irritated towards my family.
What is your practice now? What is your connection to Buddhism?
I try to do mindfulness of breathing and would like to learn vipassana meditation
Shariputra taught a butcher breathing meditation and a blacksmith contemplation of impurity of the body. Neither benefited. The Buddha then taught the butcher to meditate on the impurity of the body and the blacksmith breathing meditation. Both quickly advanced.

From the brief description of your circumstances, samatha and vipassana might not be the right practice for you now. Have you considered contemplating the Buddha as your practice?
Those who, even with distracted minds,
Entered a stupa compound
And chanted but once, “Namo Buddhaya!”
Have certainly attained the path of the buddhas.

-Lotus Sutra, Expedient Means Chapter

I think each human being has things to find out in his own life that are inescapable. They’ll find them out the easy way or the hard way, or whatever.
-Jerry Garcia

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Re: End of suffering

Post by shanyin » Sun Aug 26, 2018 12:17 am

Queequeg wrote:
Thu Aug 23, 2018 3:01 am
Man goes to the doctor, say, "doc, it hurts when I hit myself." Doctor says, "don't do that."

Your problems sound pretty superficial. (Insert first world problem memes).

Have you tried taking a break from the things that make you unhappy? That seems like the logical starting point.
I believe I am being treated for a mental illness that I do not have. I want a permanent break from psychiatry and the abuse that I suffer at the hands of these quacks that cannot tell the difference between someone who is suffering from the most severe mental disorder in the DSM and someone who's brain is only being damaged by the drugs that I am given. I want a break from my family that I do not like. I want these people out of my life.

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Re: End of suffering

Post by shanyin » Sun Aug 26, 2018 4:42 am

Well maybe I do have a mental illness. I am not sure if I have considered contemplating the Buddha as my practice. I think it may have entered my thoughts. How can I do that? Can you teach me?

Shariputra taught a butcher breathing meditation and a blacksmith contemplation of impurity of the body. Neither benefited. The Buddha then taught the butcher to meditate on the impurity of the body and the blacksmith breathing meditation. Both quickly advanced.

From the brief description of your circumstances, samatha and vipassana might not be the right practice for you now. Have you considered contemplating the Buddha as your practice?

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Re: End of suffering

Post by dude » Mon Aug 27, 2018 7:42 am

You have suffered greatly, my friend.

You have been thru a nightmarish experience; uncontrollable emotions, forcibly taken to the hospital.

There is no suffering, however great, that Buddhism cannot heal.

If you want to practice, you'll find good friends here willing to share what they know. The rest is up to you. Think about what you learn of the Buddhist teachings and put it into practice - as you see fit.

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Re: End of suffering

Post by shanyin » Tue Aug 28, 2018 2:27 am

It can be frustarting to have people say they think there's soemething wrong with you for and go from counsellor A to B (in general, psychiatrists, doctors etc.) for example "medically wrong with you" and feel like your waiting for your life to start.

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Re: End of suffering

Post by shanyin » Tue Aug 28, 2018 2:29 am

I need to have a better understand of the Dharma and Buddhism. I think that making an effort to keep the 5 precepts would be a good start. I have negative habits like pornography and smoking ciggarettes and drinking alchohol.

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