PadmaVonSamba wrote: ↑Sat Dec 22, 2018 3:09 am
what does space become when you chop it up?
...I can not confirm that space is suey.... But with that said, if it was, and we chopped it up, it would become chopped suey.
Ax merry Christmas, that was funny. So i am still hopping to have some heart level feelings for the both-individual-and-not idea of buddhahood/buddha nature within us now.....
Until then, an easier point
Can what i believe or think change my destiny? Change the physics of what i will become in the future?
Yes. See karma as well as cause and effect outside of the realm of the mind (not karma). But that is about us, life now. The question in this thread is not about life in the land of reincarnation (birth) it is about either 1) not being born/ joining the ground luminosity at the time of death or 2) like Sidartha Gautama, becoming enlightened in Samsara as a suffering human.
Now you could say, regarding buddhahood as both-individual-and-not, that #2 is proof, because Sidartha Gautama was both enlightened and a human being at the same time. If anyone really believes that story (which I do), then riddle me this, how can you be enlightened and still keep youself alive when you have to kill all kinds of living beings (bacteria, insects, etc...) in the basic daily process if living (e.g. harvesting potatoes you dismember and kill all kinds of worms, beetles, ants, larvae, etc..)? Are there any other conflicts that you can think if between human life (basics) and enlightenment ?
https://simple.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enl ... (Buddhism)
My feeling about Sidartha Gautama (and about Jesus) is probably a buzzkill to many and that is that they are ordinary people, not "enlightened". But on the other hand, sure we all do have buddha nature, and we are all "God's children" just that, I am talking about science, I am talking about mushrooms growing up out of my chest (sorry no chop suey here, but is possible...). And how does life start? The best we know is that only life can make life. So the only cause of the mind is the mind? Sure, just like the only cause of my brain involves another brain (with nerve-connected genitals). What we are talking about is human reproduction and reproduction of all life forms down to plants through bacteria up through insects, animals, and so on. Multiplied by other inhabitable cosmic ecosystems....
So in that way I am both individual and collective (See emptiness). But the subject of buddhist enlightenment, to live but without being born? I doubt it - and that is why I doubt the anthropomorphic buddhas living out there with limbs and heads and so on being individual... so maybe we should start there, how can i be alive and not be born? Are buddhas alive?
i dedicate this post to your happiness, the causes of your happiness, the absence of your suffering the causes of the absence of your suffering that we may not have too much attachment nor aversion. SAMAYAMANUPALAYA