paramhansa yogananda

General discussion, particularly exploring the Dharma in the modern world.
[N.B. This is the forum that was called ‘Exploring Buddhism’. The new name simply describes it better.]
theanarchist
Posts: 820
Joined: Thu Dec 26, 2013 7:26 pm

Re: paramhansa yogananda

Post by theanarchist » Sat Apr 19, 2014 4:37 pm

smcj wrote: I suggest that you find an authentic teacher, of any lineage, and have that conversation face to face. You'll probably find a Nyingmapa to be the most accommodating of your wishes and perspective, and a Gelugpa the least accommodating.

Yeah. And that Nyingmapa will probably send you into retreat for 10 years before even starting to consider you are ready for consort practice.

ConradTree
Posts: 303
Joined: Sun Dec 29, 2013 6:33 pm

Re: paramhansa yogananda

Post by ConradTree » Sat Apr 19, 2014 4:49 pm

My point was, and my continuing point, is gelug nonsense on this topic.

Im pretty sure every lay person of tibetan ethnicity who has these empowerments is practicing karmamudra.

ConradTree
Posts: 303
Joined: Sun Dec 29, 2013 6:33 pm

Re: paramhansa yogananda

Post by ConradTree » Sat Apr 19, 2014 4:52 pm

theanarchist wrote:
smcj wrote: I suggest that you find an authentic teacher, of any lineage, and have that conversation face to face. You'll probably find a Nyingmapa to be the most accommodating of your wishes and perspective, and a Gelugpa the least accommodating.

Yeah. And that Nyingmapa will probably send you into retreat for 10 years before even starting to consider you are ready for consort practice.
what rubbish

JKhedrup
Posts: 2327
Joined: Wed May 30, 2012 8:28 am

Re: paramhansa yogananda

Post by JKhedrup » Sat Apr 19, 2014 4:56 pm

I will take notice and withdraw considering your aversion to Gelug views :anjali:

theanarchist
Posts: 820
Joined: Thu Dec 26, 2013 7:26 pm

Re: paramhansa yogananda

Post by theanarchist » Sat Apr 19, 2014 4:58 pm

ConradTree wrote:My point was, and my continuing point, is gelug nonsense on this topic.

Im pretty sure every lay person of tibetan ethnicity who has these empowerments is practicing karmamudra.

:rolling:



Probably not all that many people of Tibetan ethnicity have the empowerment to do so.

By the way, if you get the transmission to do the inner practices of a sadhana, which are NOT given randomly like the "normal" empoweremnts by the way, do you get them all at once or does the teacher only give them in portions according to what you have to practice next?

theanarchist
Posts: 820
Joined: Thu Dec 26, 2013 7:26 pm

Re: paramhansa yogananda

Post by theanarchist » Sat Apr 19, 2014 5:00 pm

ConradTree wrote:My point was, and my continuing point, is gelug nonsense on this topic..

Not Gelug nonsense. I'm as Nyingma as it can get and I agree with what was said.

User avatar
Grigoris
Global Moderator
Posts: 15093
Joined: Fri May 14, 2010 9:27 pm
Location: Greece

Re: paramhansa yogananda

Post by Grigoris » Sat Apr 19, 2014 5:01 pm

ConradTree wrote:My point was, and my continuing point, is gelug nonsense on this topic.
Which lineage do you practice in exactly?
Im pretty sure every lay person of tibetan ethnicity who has these empowerments is practicing karmamudra.
Even if they were, given your attitude, it is highly unlikely that they would want to discuss or teach it to you.

Reign in your aggression and judgmental attitude and you may find people more accommodating and helpful.
"My religion is not deceiving myself."
Jetsun Milarepa 1052-1135 CE

"Butchers, prostitutes, those guilty of the five most heinous crimes, outcasts, the underprivileged: all are utterly the substance of existence and nothing other than total bliss."
The Supreme Source - The Kunjed Gyalpo
The Fundamental Tantra of Dzogchen Semde

theanarchist
Posts: 820
Joined: Thu Dec 26, 2013 7:26 pm

Re: paramhansa yogananda

Post by theanarchist » Sat Apr 19, 2014 5:04 pm

JKhedrup wrote:I will take notice and withdraw considering your aversion to Gelug views :anjali:

Erm, please stay. You can probably answer on the basis of scriptures what happens and why exactly if consort practice goes wrong.

User avatar
smcj
Posts: 5480
Joined: Wed May 29, 2013 6:13 am

Re: paramhansa yogananda

Post by smcj » Sat Apr 19, 2014 5:11 pm

theanarchist wrote:
smcj wrote: I suggest that you find an authentic teacher, of any lineage, and have that conversation face to face. You'll probably find a Nyingmapa to be the most accommodating of your wishes and perspective, and a Gelugpa the least accommodating.
Yeah. And that Nyingmapa will probably send you into retreat for 10 years before even starting to consider you are ready for consort practice.
And why do you think that is? No reason at all? Have you asked one why?
I support Mingyur R and HHDL in their positions against Lama abuse.
*****
Once in a while you can get shown the light
In the strangest of places if you look at it right.
Robert Hunter

theanarchist
Posts: 820
Joined: Thu Dec 26, 2013 7:26 pm

Re: paramhansa yogananda

Post by theanarchist » Sat Apr 19, 2014 5:20 pm

smcj wrote:
theanarchist wrote:
smcj wrote: I suggest that you find an authentic teacher, of any lineage, and have that conversation face to face. You'll probably find a Nyingmapa to be the most accommodating of your wishes and perspective, and a Gelugpa the least accommodating.
Yeah. And that Nyingmapa will probably send you into retreat for 10 years before even starting to consider you are ready for consort practice.
And why do you think that is? No reason at all? Have you asked one why?

I asked a long term western retreatant who has done inner practices (apparently tummo and stuff) what can go wrong. He said you risk your mental health if you do those practices without being qualified because your energy system is going to be messed up, which is decidedly unhealthy for the mind.

I only know one Tibetan who I suspect might be dong consort practice with his wife (he is a high lama) and I would rather NOT ask about it because stupid (inappropriate) questions only get stupid answers with him.

ConradTree
Posts: 303
Joined: Sun Dec 29, 2013 6:33 pm

Re: paramhansa yogananda

Post by ConradTree » Sat Apr 19, 2014 11:44 pm

Malcolm wrote: In general, the Sakyapa POV is that monks use a jñānamudra....

Yes exactly.

Monks use jnanamudra or tummo (what you called Vajrayogini)

ConradTree
Posts: 303
Joined: Sun Dec 29, 2013 6:33 pm

Re: paramhansa yogananda

Post by ConradTree » Sat Apr 19, 2014 11:45 pm


Locked

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Rick and 25 guests