I get the idea of space without anything in it [durrr], but I don't think I believe that we can be conscious of anything [espeially space!] without seeing what might be called a colour. I can't get my head around space that has no lininjg... I am really just posting to make sure that I haven't misunderstood and that the 5th jhana sees nothing??In the fourth rupajhana, there is already Upekkha, equanimity and Ekkagata, concentration, but the mind is still focused on a "material" object, as any color.,. In the fifth jhana, the meditator discovers that there is no object, but only an infinite space, which is empty
Not darkness but no visual consciousness???