What is Bon Shamanism

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Re: What is Bon Shamanism

Post by kalden yungdrung » Fri Jan 25, 2019 8:42 am

IN ADDITION:

Nima and his friends the Bön Shamans from Nepal.
He can teach them , because Nima can practice the higher Ways in Bön, like Bön Tantra which is a higher teaching.
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Re: What is Bon Shamanism

Post by kalden yungdrung » Fri Jan 25, 2019 8:49 am

IN ADDITION:

Nima and H.E. the Bön Yongdzin Rinpoche.

Here are also some women gathered , who are teached by Nima Lama.
Nima Lama is in front of Lopon La, to the right side.

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Re: What is Bon Shamanism

Post by kalden yungdrung » Tue Jan 29, 2019 8:43 am

Tashi delek,

"Between The Lines:
exorcising the old year in a Himalayan Bönpo village"
with thanks to Prof. Charles Ramble (Paris). :namaste:
[Subtitles in English]

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Re: What is Bon Shamanism

Post by Oklahoma » Fri Feb 08, 2019 11:01 pm

Lhasa wrote:
Tue Nov 06, 2018 3:35 pm
They worship shiva? How terribly sad!! Nice to know that though, I'll stay away from Bon shamanism and dharma products from countries that are polluted by shiva worship.
Dear Lhasa, did Shiva used to bully you in school and steal your lunch money?
Anyway, regardless, since you just erased in one fell swoop pretty much every Asian country where Vajrayana is practiced to include at least Nepal and India where Shiva is worshipped as well, it begs the question, so where do you agree to have your dharma items imported from?

Also I am curious, if one day you become afflicted with an otherwise unhealable medical condition, would you push away a Bon shaman who could actually heal you just because he worships Shiva?

My personal sense is that none of us are enlightened enough to know if a given deity is enlightened or not. Best not to disrespect a deity who may very well be an embodiment of the divine after all.

In Tibet for example Padmasambhava statues had been destroyed, and Nyingma monestaries burned, by monks of the new traditions, for example.

I know that throughout history many followers of various religions throughout the world have believed that their religion is the only one True path and that other paths and their followers need to be destroyed. Thankfully all that’s now in the Middle Ages.

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Re: What is Bon Shamanism

Post by kalden yungdrung » Sat Feb 09, 2019 11:13 am

Oklahoma wrote:
Fri Feb 08, 2019 11:01 pm


Also I am curious, if one day you become afflicted with an otherwise unhealable medical condition, would you push away a Bon shaman who could actually heal you just because he worships Shiva?
A Bön Shaman never worships Shiva. That Shamans worship Shiva, that is practised by the other Nepali Shamans who are also related to Mount Tise.
These Shamans can perform still the blood sacrifices because of the wrathful aspects of Shiva.
They bite off for instance in a tree the head of a chicken. Bön Shamans never do these rituals, due to their oath of Compassion in the Lineage of Buddha Tönpa Shenrap Miwoche.

Lhasa does not like these rituals of the "Shiva" Shamans and confuses them with the Bön Shamans.
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Re: What is Bon Shamanism

Post by Grigoris » Sat Feb 09, 2019 3:49 pm

kalden yungdrung wrote:
Sat Feb 09, 2019 11:13 am
These Shamans can perform still the blood sacrifices because of the wrathful aspects of Shiva.
They bite off for instance in a tree the head of a chicken.
Evidence?
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Re: What is Bon Shamanism

Post by kalden yungdrung » Wed May 08, 2019 7:14 pm

Tashi delek,

The soul can be lost sometimes and soul retrieval is then a way to get back that soul again.
This soul retrieval is also practised by the Bön Shaman who in turn learned this ritual from the monks.
Soul retrieval belongs to the 3 Lower Ways in Bön

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