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Budha Tonpa Shenrab Miwoche

Post by kalden yungdrung » Mon Jun 27, 2011 7:48 pm

Tashi delek,

According Bon was the Buddha Tonpa Shenrab Miwoche already enlightened before he came to earth.

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Tonpa Shenrab was said to have already been enlightened in his celestial pre-existence as Chimed Tsugphud ('Chi-med gtsugphud). In this guise, on a higher plane of existence, he transmitted the teachings of Dzogchen and Tantra to a prince from Tazik named Sangwa Dupa (gSang-ba 'dus-pa, Skt. Guhyasamaja), who returned with them to earth. Thereafter he propagated the teachings and subdued many gods and demons for the benefit of humanity. It is said that in a future incarnation this prince became the Buddha Shakyamuni. According to Bonpo Lamas, this would account for the similarities in teaching and practice between Indian Buddhism and Bon. They both have the same ultimate source.

According to Bonpo accounts, namely the hagiographies of Tonpa Shenrab, the mDo- 'dus, the gZer-myig and the gZi-brjid, he is said to have manifested himself as a human being, as a royal prince, in the country of Olmo Lung-ring ('ol-mo lungring), located somewhere in the Iranian-speaking region of ancient Central Asia known as Tazik. This would correspond to the present-day republics of Tajikistan and Uzbekistan and parts of northern Afghanistan. In this region, Iranian-speaking people are still known as Tajiks. However, Olmo Lung-ring is not considered by the Bonpos to be an ordinary geographical location that a tourist might visit. It is a hidden land, or Beyul (sbas-yul


By the way Bon does recognise the future Buddha Maitreya. :bow:

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Re: Budha Tonpa Shenrab Miwoche

Post by heart » Mon Jun 27, 2011 8:39 pm

kalden yungdrung wrote:Tashi delek,

According Bon was the Buddha Tonpa Shenrab Miwoche already enlightened before he came to earth.



So how come he left his wife and kids? :smile:

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Re: Budha Tonpa Shenrab Miwoche

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heart wrote:
kalden yungdrung wrote:Tashi delek,

According Bon was the Buddha Tonpa Shenrab Miwoche already enlightened before he came to earth.



So how come he left his wife and kids? :smile:

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Tashi delek,

I guess to show others something ?

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Re: Budha Tonpa Shenrab Miwoche

Post by heart » Tue Jun 28, 2011 5:07 am

kalden yungdrung wrote:
heart wrote:
kalden yungdrung wrote:Tashi delek,

According Bon was the Buddha Tonpa Shenrab Miwoche already enlightened before he came to earth.



So how come he left his wife and kids? :smile:

/magnus



Tashi delek,

I guess to show others something ?

Best wishes
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What would he show them with that, leaving his kid and wife and the rest of his family?

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Re: Budha Tonpa Shenrab Miwoche

Post by kalden yungdrung » Tue Jun 28, 2011 6:04 am

Tashi delek Heart,

Like every Buddha, does He show the people /human beings etc. the paths to enlightenment.

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Re: Budha Tonpa Shenrab Miwoche

Post by heart » Tue Jun 28, 2011 8:59 am

kalden yungdrung wrote:Tashi delek Heart,

Like every Buddha, does He show the people /human beings etc. the paths to enlightenment.

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:applause: so now you taught caveman what he needed to know. :twothumbsup:

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Re: Budha Tonpa Shenrab Miwoche

Post by kalden yungdrung » Tue Jun 28, 2011 9:10 pm

heart wrote:
kalden yungdrung wrote:Tashi delek Heart,

Like every Buddha, does He show the people /human beings etc. the paths to enlightenment.

Best wishes
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:applause: so now you taught caveman what he needed to know. :twothumbsup:

/magnus

Tashi delek,

What did Caveman need to know?
Sorry i cannot follow your statement regarding Caveman and i do not know Caveman or you in that sense, so that i must know your needs.
So i cannot know what he does need to know, well i guess you must know it. :shock:

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PRAYER TO BUDDHA TÖNPA SHENRAB MIWOCHE
Composed by: Dranpa Namkha 914 B.C.




TON PAI GYAL PO KHORWA DREN PAI PAL
King of teachers, glorious guide for Samsara,

MUN PAI TSOG NAM JOM DZAD DRON MAI OD
Light of lamp which vanquishes the masses of darkness,

MA RIG NAD DUN SEL WA MAN PAI TSO
Chief among physicians, who remove the torments of illness and ignorance,

MI YI CHOG TU GYUR PA MU YI GYAL
The king of the Mu clan, superior among man,

DUG NGAI DAM DANG TSO KEM ME CHEN PUNG
A mass of great flames that dries up the lakes and swamps of the five poisons,

TSAN DANG PE JYAD DAN PAI ZI PHAG PO
Exalted in splendour, having all the marks and characteristics [of enlightenment],

།ིKA WA NA TSOK DANG DU LANG NAY NI
Having willingly accepted various difficulties,

DZAD PA NA TSOG THA RU CHYIN DZAD CHING
You bring about the ultimate realization of various deeds,

ZIG TSAD ZHI DANG GONG TSAD DRUG NYI KYI
By means of the four full measures of seeing (our world) and the six full measures of your intention (to incarnate here),

JAM PA CHEN PO KHOR WA DROL DZAD PAI

You bring about the liberation of all beings from samsara with your great love.

SHEN RAB TRUL PAI KU LA CHYAG TSAL LO
I pay homage to Shenrab, the Nirmanakaya!
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Re: Budha Tonpa Shenrab Miwoche

Post by kalden yungdrung » Mon Sep 24, 2018 3:57 pm

Tashi delek,

Recently i met the Ven. Geshela Mönlam Wangyal ‘Pontsang’
He was so kind to give me this text.

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By Geshe Mönlam Wangyal ‘Pontsang’



Buddha Tönpa Shenrab the founder of Bön manifested in this worldly realm in order to teach Bön Dharma.

Tönpa Sherab emanates as a concrete embodiment (སྤྲུལ་སྐུ་) of the Kuntu Zangpo.

Tönpa Shenrab while preaching is represented in three forms: in kings attire, wearing the thirteen peaceful ornaments, and in monks robes.
The teachings of Bon were taught at three different times called the three wheels of Bon (བཀའ་འཁོར་གསུམ་) representing the 3 times in which he taught.

- The First turning of the wheel of Bön was when he taught the 9 Ways,
- The second teachings are those of the 4 Doors and the Treasury
- The final teachings were those known as the following-


These teachings are said to be of 3 kinds.

- Their extended explanation (རྒྱུད་ gyü) corresponds to the Nine Ways,
- The middle sized version of the teachings (ལུང་ lung) corresponds to the 4 Doors and the Treasury
- Finally the core or essential explanations (མན་ངག་ mengag) correspond to the Outer, Inner and Secret teachings and those of the Great Perfection (rdzogs chen).

The 3 representations of Tönpa Shenrab correspond respectively to his appearing as a king, in the thirteen ornaments and as monk respectively.

(སྟོན་པ་རྒྱལ་ཆས་ཅན།) As a king in royal attire. It is said that Tonpa Shenrab was born as a king but later renounced to become a monk. As a king he took care of the basic needs of his subjects and in his first teachings he taught the Nine Ways emphasising the Four First Ways which deal with the knowledge of the wordly and spiritual matters necessary for everyday life: Medicine, Astrology, Ritual, Divination (important in traditional Tibetan culture for the worldly and spiritual needs of common people).

This also refers to རྒྱུད་ the teachings in their extended version (said to be like the totality of the stars in the sky (རྒྱུད་ཀུན་ཕུན་སུམ་ཚོགས་པ་ནི། མཁའ་ལ་རྒྱན་ཚོགས་བཀྲམ་ལྟར་བཤད) because in the 9 Ways of Bön the whole of the Bön teachings are included.
སྟོན་པ་ལོངས་སྤྱོད་རྫོགས་སྐུ། adorned with the 13 peaceful ornaments (ཞི་རྒྱན་བཅུ་གསུམ་གྱིས་བརྒྱན་པ་, zhi rgyan bcu gsum gyis brgyad pa).

སྟོན་པ་ལོངས་སྤྱོད་རྫོགས་སྐུ།']Tönpa Shenrab is represented here in his body of enjoyment (rdzogs sku) wearing the thirteen ornaments such as a crown, earrings, necklaces, bracelets, throne and the five silken garments. The 13 peaceful ornaments are symbols of that perfection and a sign that he has traversed all the 13 stages to Buddhahood (sa bcu gsum).

This corresponds to the Teachings of the 4 Doors and the Treasury and refer to (ལུང་རྣམས་ལྟ་སྤྱོད་བྱེ་བྲག་ནི། གཟའ་སྐར་འཁོར་ལོ་ལྟ་བུར་བཤད་), the mid-size teachings which are wisdom and means and said to be like the sun, moon, planets and constellation. The middle-size version of the teachings emphasize the Tantras and the 10 Perfections (paramita, Tib ཕར་རོལ་དུ་ཕྱིན་པ་).

(སྟོན་པ་ཁྲི་གཙུགས་རྒྱལ་བ།) Tönpa Shenrab in monk robes represents the higher teachings of Dzogchen. These refer to the concise explanations which are called man ngag as (མན་ངག་ཐུགས་རྗེ་དོན་གསལ་བ། མཁའ་ལ་ཉི་ཟེར་འདུས་ལྟར་བཤད་) and it is said to be like the concentrated rays of the sun in the sky.

During the third turning of the wheel of Bön, Tönpa Shenrab is said to have emphasized the teachings of Great Perfection. It is said that Tönpa Shenrab as a king tried to overcome chapha Lagring, the King of the dü demons (བདུད་ཁྱབ་པ་ལག་རིང་) but did not succeed and neither he could succeed later wearing the 13 peaceful ornaments. Finally when he renounced the world and became a monk he could win over Chapha Lagring who asked for his teachings which were those of Dzogchen.
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PRAYER TO BUDDHA TÖNPA SHENRAB
Composed by Dranpa Namkha

TÖN PAI GYAL PO KHORWA DREN PAI PAL/
King of teachers, glorious guide for Samsara,

MUN PAI TSOG NAM JOM DZAD DRON MAI OD/
Light of lamp which vanquishes the masses of darkness,

MA RIG NAD DUN SEL WA MAN PAI TSO/
Chief among physicians, who remove the torments of illness and ignorance,

MI YI CHOG TU GYUR PA MU YI GYAL/
The king of the Mu clan, superior among man,

DUG NGAI DAM DANG TSO KEM ME CHEN PUNG/
A mass of great flames that dries up the lakes and swamps of the five poisons,

TSAN DANG PE JYAD DAN PAI ZI PHAG PO/
Exalted in splendor, having all the marks and characteristics [of enlightenment],

KA WA NA TSOK DANG DU LANG NAY NI/
Having willingly accepted various difficulties,

DZAD PA NA TSOG THA RU CHYIN DZAD CHING/
You bring about the ultimate realization of various deeds,

ZIG TSAD ZHI DANG GONG TSAD DRUG NYI KYI/
By means of the four full measures of seeing (our world) and the six
full measures of your intention (to incarnate here),

JAM PA CHEN PO KHOR WA DROL DZAD PAI/
You bring about the liberation of all beings from Samsara with your great love.

SHEN RAB TRUL PAI KU LA CHYAG TSAL LO/
I pay homage to Shenrab, the Nirmanakaya!
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Tashi delek,

Buddha Tönpa Shenrabs Teachings have been translated into different languages, due to Mucho Demdruk.

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By: John Reynolds / Vajranatha :namaste:


At the end of Buddha Tönpa Shenrabs earthly career, it is said that his various teachings were collected together and put into writing.

These were translated into many different languages, including the language of Zhang-Zhung from which, in turn, they were translated into Tibetan.
Among his many disciples, it was Mucho Demdruk

(Mu-cho Idem-drug) who was principally entrusted with organizing the master's teachings in written form and he turned the wheel of Bön for 3 years.


He was followed by the 6 great translators, namely:

1. Mutsa Trahe (dMu-tsha tra-he) of Tazik
2. Trithok Partsa (Khri-thog spar-tsa) of Zhang-Zhung
3. Huli Parya (Hu-li spar-ya) of Sum-pa
4. Lhadak Ngagdrol (Lha-bdag ngags-grol) of India
5. Legtang Mangpo (Legs-tang rmang-po) of China
6. Serthok Chejyam (gSer-thog lee-byams) of Phrom (the West).

These were the 6 scholars known as ornaments of the world.

Each of them was said to have translated the teachings of Buddha Tönpa Shenrab into their own languages.
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ལྷ་རྒྱལ།
LHA GYAL – VICTORY OF THE GODS

སྟོན་པའི་ཐུགས་རྗེས་ཆེ་བར་ཤོག།
TON PE THUG JE CHHE WAR SHOG
May the unsurpassable compassion of the Buddha extend everywhere

ལྷ་ཡི་སྨོན་ལམ་བཙན་བར་ཤོག།
LHA YI MON LAM TSEN PAR SHOG
May the good wishes and aspirations remain alive in each being

བོན་གྱི་བསྟན་པ་དར་བར་ཤོག།
BON GYE TENPA DAR WA SHOG
May the teachings of the Buddha flourish

སེམས་ཅན་བདེ་སྐྱིད་འཛོམས་པར་ཤོག།
SEM CHEN DE KYID DZOM PAR SHOG
May all beings meet with happiness and prosperity

མི་དགེའི་སྡིག་ཚོགས་ནུབ་པར་ཤོག།
ME GYE DIG TSOG NUB PAR SHOG
May all unwholesome thoughts and actions come to an end

སྲིན་གྱི་དམོད་པ་རྒུད་པར་ཤོག།
SIN GYI MON PA GUD PAR SHOG
May all harmful conditions decline

འཁོར་བ་སེམས་ཅན་ཐམས་ཅད་ཀྱང།
KHOR WA SEM CHEN THAM CHED KYANG
May all beings within cyclic existence

སྡུག་བསྔལ་མྱ་ངན་རྒྱུན་ཆད་ནས།
DHUG NGYAL NYANG NGE GYUN CHHED NE
Be completely free of pain and suffering

བཀྲ་ཤིས་དམ་པ་ཐོབ་པར་ཤོག།
TASHI DAM PAR THOB PAR SHOG
May the ultimate happiness and prosperity be realized.
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First, over 1000 of years and lifetimes, Buddha Tönpa Shenrab Miwoche, experienced many lives as an ordinary person, then spent many lives devoted to compassion, and finally dedicated many lives to practicing compassion and realizing the emptiness mind.
This is the way of Sutra enlightenment.

Second, in a past life he studied with Lo Sal Chimey Tsuk Phu, learning and practicing the preliminary and principal teachings of the Tantric way. Around noon during his seventh lifetime, now in the God realm, he realized that dealing with all the inner poisons was the key to the struggle toward enlightenment. He cleaned all suffering, fears and inner poisons, and near midnight, he went into the highest meditation and contemplation on the union of bliss and emptiness. Early in the morning he become enlightened in the Tantric way.

Third, in a single lifetime, using his practice of sutra and tantric meditation as a base, he practiced Dzogchen meditation.
He realized that all phenomena are a reflection of Mind, and thus can be dissolved into Mind. Through this realization he found self-awareness, the true nature of Mind, and he became enlightened in the Dzogchen way.

The final stage was the transformation of his physical body into light, the rainbow body of the Dzogchen way.




Buddha Tönpa Shenrab Miwoche embodied 3 different paths to enlightenment:

- Sutra, the renunciation path (Chi Gyu Tsen Nyi Thek Pa);
- Tantra, the transformation path (Nang San Wa Ngak Kyi Thek Pa);
- Dzogchen, the self-liberation path (Sang Wa Sem Chok La Na Me Pei Thek pa).


Buddha Tönpa Shenrab, enlightened teacher of this era

In the realm of enlightened gods and goddesses, four were chosen to embody the essential enlightenment energies of the universe (Der Shek Tso Wo Zhi) and go to the “100 years era” universe:

- Yum Chen Sa Trik Er Sang: the aspect of loving mother of the universe
- Lha Chen Shen Lha Woe Kar: the aspect of compassion of the universe
- Si pa Sang Po Bum Tri: the aspect of creator of the universe
- Ton Pa Shen Rab Miwoche: the aspect of teacher of the universe

BuddhaTönpa Shenrab Miwoche came into this world to teach Sutra, Tantra and Dzogchen,
but with specific focus on Tantra and Dzogchen.

His teachings, called Yungdrung Bön or ‘Eternal Bon’, are divided into the nine ways of the path to enlightenment.

Tonpa Shenrab Miwoche manifested into normal human life in Khar Barpo Sogye, Tagzig Olmo Lung Ring, in Zhang Zhung, as the prince son of father, Yab Gyal Bon Thoe Kar, and mother, Yum Yo Chi Gyal Zhed Ma.

From early childhood he was deeply moved by witnessing the four miseries of human life: the suffering of birth, the suffering of sickness, the suffering of aging, and the suffering of death, (Duk Ngal Zhi). He came to realize the Four Noble Truths and the need to teach them. He also realized many different teachings of Sutra, Tantra and Dzogchen, all based on love, compassion, emptiness and nature of mind.

His teachings as a youth focused on explaining how to understand and relate to impermanence and the phenomenally true or conventional truths of life.

In middle age, his teachings focused more on the details about how people could live in the realization of the union of phenomenal truth and emptiness

His final teachings are mostly a pointing to the culminating stage of the Dzogchen way, the realization of the true nature of Mind.

As a young man, Buddha Tönpa Shenrab Miwoche visited Tibet and spent 3 years in the Kong Po region teaching:

- divination
- astrology
- rituals for the spirits of the element
- medicine (Cha Shen Thekpa)

Upon his return to Olmo Lung Ring in Zhang Zhung his teachings focused on delineating the nine steps of Bön. The first four steps are classified as the Cause, or foundational preliminary teachings.

The next 4 steps concern the fruit or Result of teaching, and the final, ninth step is the Highest Essence of teaching for the universe, (Thek Pa Rim Pa Gu).



Preserving and transmitting the teachings of Buddha Tönpa Shenrab
After Buddha Tönpa Shenrab Miwoche’s enlightenment and attainment of the rainbow body at the age of 81, his main disciple, Dung Tsop Mu Cho Dhem Druk, along with 12 other disciples, formed a group of 13 (Dhu Khor Chu Sum) to collect and organize all of Buddha Tönpa Shenrab Miwoche´s teachings. They divided the teachings into 4 categories:

- Dho
- Bum
- Gyud
- Zöd.

- Dho contains the basic renunciation teachings of Sutra, focusing on guidelines for discipline and moral behaviour.
- Bum contains the highest Sutra teachings, mostly detailed expositions of the 10 great perfections, wisdom and meditation.
- Gyue contains the highest tantric teachings about how to transform fears and suffering into wisdom.
- Zod contains the Dzogchen teachings on the path of self- knowledge and self-liberation.

Due to the great efforts of these 13 masters, the teachings of Buddha Tönpa Shenrab Miwoche flourished.
6 of these masters translated Tonpa’s teachings into their own language and thus helped the teachings to take root in many different countries, benefitting countless students. They were called the “Six Most Intelligent Masters of the Universe” (Zam Ling Khe Pei Gyen Druk):

- Mu Tsa Tra He, reknowned for his intelligence in Tag Zig
- Tri Thok Par Tsa, a master in Zhang Zhung
- Gu Hu Li Par Ya, a master in Sum Pa
- Lha Dak Ngak Drol, a master in India
- Lek Tang Mang Po, a master in China
- Ser Thok Che Gyam, a master in Trom

4 students of these 6 great masters themselves became great masters from lower Tibet (Med chi khe pa mi zhi), and translated many of Buddha Tönpa Shenrab Miwoche´s teachings into Tibetan.

- Tong gyung Thu Chen, Zhang Zhung Pa
- Sha Ri U Chen, from Se city
- Che Tsa Khar Bhu, from Me Nyak city
- Gyim Tsa Ma Chung, from Dhe city

In 1196 BCE, the well-known Tag Zig Bön master and abbot, Zu Trul Ye She, created the monastic education system in Tibet and Zhang Zhung.
He also brought 500 relics of Buddha Tönpa Shenrab Miwoche to Tibet and other Zhang Zhung cities for blessing and as an enduring reminder of the Bön teaching and its success in new regions. From this time until 718 CE, Bon was the only religion of Zhang Zhung and Tibet.

For the next 1900 years, Tibet and Zhang Zhung were overseen and taken care of by the Bön and Tibetan king linage 18 (Jha ru chen gyi Gyal po). During the entire era of rule from the first king, Nya Tri Tsen Po, to the thirty second Tibetan king, Tri Song Deu Tsen, Tibet and Zhang Zhung were at peace and unified under the Bön teaching.

However, in the 7th century, the 32nd King, Tri Song Deu Tsen, encouraged cultural and religious exchange with India. Over time, the Indian masters who came to Tibet gained influence with the Tibetan king and many Tibetan lamas.

This was the beginning of the introduction of Indian Buddhism to Tibet.

KingTri Song Deu Tsen became a strong supporter of Buddhism, and toward the end of his life he sought to totally transform Tibet into a Buddhist nation. He even decreed that all Bön practitioners should leave Tibet.
At this very difficult time, the great master of Zhang Zhung, Drenpa Namkha, was dedicated to preserving the Bön teachings. Because many Bön texts were being destroyed, and many Bön lamas trying to save the texts were being assassinated,
Drenpa Namkha and other lamas placed many Bön texts and treasures into secret caves sealed by the protector deity, Yeshe Walmo. There they remained hidden for over 200 years.

In 1017, the great Bon master, Shen Chen Lu Ga, now known as the first “treasure lama”, received a transmission from Khandro Yeshe Walmo. As a result, he discovered the first hidden Bön texts and ritual objects in a sealed cave. He continued to find many hidden Bön treasures, becoming an important Bön master for a new generation. His discoveries helped renew and revitalize Bön teaching in Tibet and Zhang Zhung, after almost 200 years of being hidden due to fear of persecution.

His teachings flourished in many different cities. His teachings were passed to five lineage holders of the Shen Tsang Tön Pa Shen Rab family lineage:

- Shen Tsang
- Dru Tsang
- Zhu Tsang
- Pa Tsang
- Meu tsang.

In 1072, one of his students, Dru Dak Nyi Chen Po, founded the Yeru Monastery as a Bön study center for all of Tibet. Yeru, housing over 10,000 monks, remained the most important monastery in Tibet until 1388 when, during the time of the 18th abbot, a landslide destroyed the monastery.

In 1405, Gyal Wa Nyamed Sherab Gyaltsen (1356-1415), who had been just a simple monk at Yeru monastery, founded a new monastery in the nearby Tsang Menri Thob Gyal area. Called Menri Monastery, it became the head monastery for all of Tibetan Bon. During the 700 years from its founding until the Cultural Revolution of 1959, there were thirty two abbots of Menri, and 1000 of monks studied sutra, tantra and dzogchen there.
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