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Budha Tonpa Shenrab Miwoche

Post by kalden yungdrung » Mon Jun 27, 2011 7:48 pm

Tashi delek,

According Bon was the Buddha Tonpa Shenrab Miwoche already enlightened before he came to earth.

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Tonpa Shenrab was said to have already been enlightened in his celestial pre-existence as Chimed Tsugphud ('Chi-med gtsugphud). In this guise, on a higher plane of existence, he transmitted the teachings of Dzogchen and Tantra to a prince from Tazik named Sangwa Dupa (gSang-ba 'dus-pa, Skt. Guhyasamaja), who returned with them to earth. Thereafter he propagated the teachings and subdued many gods and demons for the benefit of humanity. It is said that in a future incarnation this prince became the Buddha Shakyamuni. According to Bonpo Lamas, this would account for the similarities in teaching and practice between Indian Buddhism and Bon. They both have the same ultimate source.

According to Bonpo accounts, namely the hagiographies of Tonpa Shenrab, the mDo- 'dus, the gZer-myig and the gZi-brjid, he is said to have manifested himself as a human being, as a royal prince, in the country of Olmo Lung-ring ('ol-mo lungring), located somewhere in the Iranian-speaking region of ancient Central Asia known as Tazik. This would correspond to the present-day republics of Tajikistan and Uzbekistan and parts of northern Afghanistan. In this region, Iranian-speaking people are still known as Tajiks. However, Olmo Lung-ring is not considered by the Bonpos to be an ordinary geographical location that a tourist might visit. It is a hidden land, or Beyul (sbas-yul


By the way Bon does recognise the future Buddha Maitreya. :bow:

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Re: Budha Tonpa Shenrab Miwoche

Post by heart » Mon Jun 27, 2011 8:39 pm

kalden yungdrung wrote:Tashi delek,

According Bon was the Buddha Tonpa Shenrab Miwoche already enlightened before he came to earth.



So how come he left his wife and kids? :smile:

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Re: Budha Tonpa Shenrab Miwoche

Post by kalden yungdrung » Mon Jun 27, 2011 9:22 pm

heart wrote:
kalden yungdrung wrote:Tashi delek,

According Bon was the Buddha Tonpa Shenrab Miwoche already enlightened before he came to earth.



So how come he left his wife and kids? :smile:

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Tashi delek,

I guess to show others something ?

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Re: Budha Tonpa Shenrab Miwoche

Post by heart » Tue Jun 28, 2011 5:07 am

kalden yungdrung wrote:
heart wrote:
kalden yungdrung wrote:Tashi delek,

According Bon was the Buddha Tonpa Shenrab Miwoche already enlightened before he came to earth.



So how come he left his wife and kids? :smile:

/magnus



Tashi delek,

I guess to show others something ?

Best wishes
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What would he show them with that, leaving his kid and wife and the rest of his family?

/magnus
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Re: Budha Tonpa Shenrab Miwoche

Post by kalden yungdrung » Tue Jun 28, 2011 6:04 am

Tashi delek Heart,

Like every Buddha, does He show the people /human beings etc. the paths to enlightenment.

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Re: Budha Tonpa Shenrab Miwoche

Post by heart » Tue Jun 28, 2011 8:59 am

kalden yungdrung wrote:Tashi delek Heart,

Like every Buddha, does He show the people /human beings etc. the paths to enlightenment.

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:applause: so now you taught caveman what he needed to know. :twothumbsup:

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Re: Budha Tonpa Shenrab Miwoche

Post by kalden yungdrung » Tue Jun 28, 2011 9:10 pm

heart wrote:
kalden yungdrung wrote:Tashi delek Heart,

Like every Buddha, does He show the people /human beings etc. the paths to enlightenment.

Best wishes
KY
:applause: so now you taught caveman what he needed to know. :twothumbsup:

/magnus

Tashi delek,

What did Caveman need to know?
Sorry i cannot follow your statement regarding Caveman and i do not know Caveman or you in that sense, so that i must know your needs.
So i cannot know what he does need to know, well i guess you must know it. :shock:

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Re: Budha Tonpa Shenrab Miwoche

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PRAYER TO BUDDHA TÖNPA SHENRAB MIWOCHE
Composed by: Dranpa Namkha 914 B.C.




TON PAI GYAL PO KHORWA DREN PAI PAL
King of teachers, glorious guide for Samsara,

MUN PAI TSOG NAM JOM DZAD DRON MAI OD
Light of lamp which vanquishes the masses of darkness,

MA RIG NAD DUN SEL WA MAN PAI TSO
Chief among physicians, who remove the torments of illness and ignorance,

MI YI CHOG TU GYUR PA MU YI GYAL
The king of the Mu clan, superior among man,

DUG NGAI DAM DANG TSO KEM ME CHEN PUNG
A mass of great flames that dries up the lakes and swamps of the five poisons,

TSAN DANG PE JYAD DAN PAI ZI PHAG PO
Exalted in splendour, having all the marks and characteristics [of enlightenment],

།ིKA WA NA TSOK DANG DU LANG NAY NI
Having willingly accepted various difficulties,

DZAD PA NA TSOG THA RU CHYIN DZAD CHING
You bring about the ultimate realization of various deeds,

ZIG TSAD ZHI DANG GONG TSAD DRUG NYI KYI
By means of the four full measures of seeing (our world) and the six full measures of your intention (to incarnate here),

JAM PA CHEN PO KHOR WA DROL DZAD PAI

You bring about the liberation of all beings from samsara with your great love.

SHEN RAB TRUL PAI KU LA CHYAG TSAL LO
I pay homage to Shenrab, the Nirmanakaya!
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Re: Budha Tonpa Shenrab Miwoche

Post by kalden yungdrung » Mon Sep 24, 2018 3:57 pm

Tashi delek,

Recently i met the Ven. Geshela Mönlam Wangyal ‘Pontsang’
He was so kind to give me this text.

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By Geshe Mönlam Wangyal ‘Pontsang’



Buddha Tönpa Shenrab the founder of Bön manifested in this worldly realm in order to teach Bön Dharma.

Tönpa Sherab emanates as a concrete embodiment (སྤྲུལ་སྐུ་) of the Kuntu Zangpo.

Tönpa Shenrab while preaching is represented in three forms: in kings attire, wearing the thirteen peaceful ornaments, and in monks robes.
The teachings of Bon were taught at three different times called the three wheels of Bon (བཀའ་འཁོར་གསུམ་) representing the 3 times in which he taught.

- The First turning of the wheel of Bön was when he taught the 9 Ways,
- The second teachings are those of the 4 Doors and the Treasury
- The final teachings were those known as the following-


These teachings are said to be of 3 kinds.

- Their extended explanation (རྒྱུད་ gyü) corresponds to the Nine Ways,
- The middle sized version of the teachings (ལུང་ lung) corresponds to the 4 Doors and the Treasury
- Finally the core or essential explanations (མན་ངག་ mengag) correspond to the Outer, Inner and Secret teachings and those of the Great Perfection (rdzogs chen).

The 3 representations of Tönpa Shenrab correspond respectively to his appearing as a king, in the thirteen ornaments and as monk respectively.

(སྟོན་པ་རྒྱལ་ཆས་ཅན།) As a king in royal attire. It is said that Tonpa Shenrab was born as a king but later renounced to become a monk. As a king he took care of the basic needs of his subjects and in his first teachings he taught the Nine Ways emphasising the Four First Ways which deal with the knowledge of the wordly and spiritual matters necessary for everyday life: Medicine, Astrology, Ritual, Divination (important in traditional Tibetan culture for the worldly and spiritual needs of common people).

This also refers to རྒྱུད་ the teachings in their extended version (said to be like the totality of the stars in the sky (རྒྱུད་ཀུན་ཕུན་སུམ་ཚོགས་པ་ནི། མཁའ་ལ་རྒྱན་ཚོགས་བཀྲམ་ལྟར་བཤད) because in the 9 Ways of Bön the whole of the Bön teachings are included.
སྟོན་པ་ལོངས་སྤྱོད་རྫོགས་སྐུ། adorned with the 13 peaceful ornaments (ཞི་རྒྱན་བཅུ་གསུམ་གྱིས་བརྒྱན་པ་, zhi rgyan bcu gsum gyis brgyad pa).

སྟོན་པ་ལོངས་སྤྱོད་རྫོགས་སྐུ།']Tönpa Shenrab is represented here in his body of enjoyment (rdzogs sku) wearing the thirteen ornaments such as a crown, earrings, necklaces, bracelets, throne and the five silken garments. The 13 peaceful ornaments are symbols of that perfection and a sign that he has traversed all the 13 stages to Buddhahood (sa bcu gsum).

This corresponds to the Teachings of the 4 Doors and the Treasury and refer to (ལུང་རྣམས་ལྟ་སྤྱོད་བྱེ་བྲག་ནི། གཟའ་སྐར་འཁོར་ལོ་ལྟ་བུར་བཤད་), the mid-size teachings which are wisdom and means and said to be like the sun, moon, planets and constellation. The middle-size version of the teachings emphasize the Tantras and the 10 Perfections (paramita, Tib ཕར་རོལ་དུ་ཕྱིན་པ་).

(སྟོན་པ་ཁྲི་གཙུགས་རྒྱལ་བ།) Tönpa Shenrab in monk robes represents the higher teachings of Dzogchen. These refer to the concise explanations which are called man ngag as (མན་ངག་ཐུགས་རྗེ་དོན་གསལ་བ། མཁའ་ལ་ཉི་ཟེར་འདུས་ལྟར་བཤད་) and it is said to be like the concentrated rays of the sun in the sky.

During the third turning of the wheel of Bön, Tönpa Shenrab is said to have emphasized the teachings of Great Perfection. It is said that Tönpa Shenrab as a king tried to overcome chapha Lagring, the King of the dü demons (བདུད་ཁྱབ་པ་ལག་རིང་) but did not succeed and neither he could succeed later wearing the 13 peaceful ornaments. Finally when he renounced the world and became a monk he could win over Chapha Lagring who asked for his teachings which were those of Dzogchen.
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Re: Budha Tonpa Shenrab Miwoche

Post by kalden yungdrung » Tue Sep 25, 2018 3:37 pm

PRAYER TO BUDDHA TÖNPA SHENRAB
Composed by Dranpa Namkha

TÖN PAI GYAL PO KHORWA DREN PAI PAL/
King of teachers, glorious guide for Samsara,

MUN PAI TSOG NAM JOM DZAD DRON MAI OD/
Light of lamp which vanquishes the masses of darkness,

MA RIG NAD DUN SEL WA MAN PAI TSO/
Chief among physicians, who remove the torments of illness and ignorance,

MI YI CHOG TU GYUR PA MU YI GYAL/
The king of the Mu clan, superior among man,

DUG NGAI DAM DANG TSO KEM ME CHEN PUNG/
A mass of great flames that dries up the lakes and swamps of the five poisons,

TSAN DANG PE JYAD DAN PAI ZI PHAG PO/
Exalted in splendor, having all the marks and characteristics [of enlightenment],

KA WA NA TSOK DANG DU LANG NAY NI/
Having willingly accepted various difficulties,

DZAD PA NA TSOG THA RU CHYIN DZAD CHING/
You bring about the ultimate realization of various deeds,

ZIG TSAD ZHI DANG GONG TSAD DRUG NYI KYI/
By means of the four full measures of seeing (our world) and the six
full measures of your intention (to incarnate here),

JAM PA CHEN PO KHOR WA DROL DZAD PAI/
You bring about the liberation of all beings from Samsara with your great love.

SHEN RAB TRUL PAI KU LA CHYAG TSAL LO/
I pay homage to Shenrab, the Nirmanakaya!
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Re: Budha Tonpa Shenrab Miwoche

Post by kalden yungdrung » Tue Sep 25, 2018 8:07 pm

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